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Redshirting Kindergarten

Posted: 05/15/11 12:41 PM ET

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Why are so many parents holding their boys back? Is it really good for them? And what impact is it having on everybody else?

"I got paid $100 for that shot," one of my players told me as we warmed up for our basketball game, referring to a close-range layup the prior week. No, I'm not an NBA coach. The player wasn't referring to some elaborate point shaving scheme cooked up by would-be sports agents to high school prodigies. The player was six years old.

The kid's parents had paid him to make a basket. I was floored. Speechless. He said it in passing like it didn't really matter, like even he thought it was kind of weird.

Pretty soon the boys were laughing and chasing each other around cones I had set up, trying without much success to dribble the miniature balls while playing tag. Clearly, having fun was way more important to this kid than any parent's $100 payout. But it stuck with me as a sign of something profoundly wrong with our generation of parents, and a potential danger to the generation of kids, especially boys, that we are raising.

It reminded me of what a kindergarten teacher at a private school in Boston recently told me: "I was cornered by an applicant's father who asked that if he sent his child to me in pre-K, could I promise that his child would get into to Harvard in 14 years."

Most particularly it made me think of the increasing number of families who are holding back their sons at the age of five, particularly in private schools, in order to increase their competitive advantage, following, perhaps without knowing it consciously, the line of thinking that has been used to produce professional hockey players.


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In his book Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell discusses the odd distribution of birth months among NHL players. In Canada, youth hockey is a highly policed sport where players are registered strictly by calendar year. The oldest, therefore, at each level are those born earliest in the year. Just by virtue of age they tend to be bigger and stronger. Gladwell argues convincingly that a disproportionate number of successful hockey players end up being born in the first few months of the year (see graph below). This selection process starts as early as age 8, and the effect persists all the way up to the NHL. It has been very consistent over time.


Source: http://behindthenet.ca/blog/

So if it is true of youth hockey players in Canada why wouldn't it be true of kindergarten boys in Boston, or San Francisco, whose parents are hoping they will grow up to be President one day. That makes sense right?



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I asked one admissions officer what he says to the parents of boys entering kindergarten about the idea of holding their son back. He said, "I often tell parents that if allowing their children to be on the older end, rather than the younger end, results in any of the following: starting for a sports team as opposed to sitting on the bench; being one of the first to drive as opposed to one of the last (huge social advantage); the possibility they will be an A and B student as opposed to a B and C student; (for the dads) getting the girl or not getting the girl, then it is worth considering." (All the sources for this article asked to remain anonymous given the sensitive nature of their day-to-day relationships with children and their parents.)

But a different admissions officer disagreed strongly: "The trend is disgusting, but it fits with any arms race or conflict cycle model. I've been wondering more broadly about what age we push kids through all the school factories. All they have in common is age and since they all develop at different ages, that system often makes little sense anyway."

What I have noticed is that more and more boys are being held back. As a result, the classroom dynamic is changing so that the kids who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who are bigger and more mature. As one teacher put it, "While I do believe there are some cases where a child is served well by being slightly older, I do not think this is true for most children. The problem we repeatedly run into is that as some parents hold their children back, it wreaks havoc on the class dynamic and turns a pre-K classroom into an 'almost kindergarten' one."

If we keep our curriculum to what we feel is age-appropriate, we get parents who demand to know why we don't challenge their child. If we cater to those in the class who are developmentally more advanced, we lose those children who are being children and are developmentally where they should be. I would argue that those children, both boys and girls, who are pushed at an early age, end up at a social disadvantage later on, as not enough attention was given to their emotional development, and far too much was given to developing skill sets. It is also these children who lose their love of school. Most children want to participate in pretend play, for instance, but it is shocking to see those who have already internalized the idea that pretend play is too young for them, and that being older is somehow more important."

A psychologist in Boston who works intensively with children agreed with the danger in holding boys back: "The press to perceive a child's development in a competitive, cutthroat 'I win you, you lose' mindset ... appears to be extending to younger and younger ages. Although delaying school for a year may ... benefit individual children, the larger pattern seems likely to fuel collective anxiety among parents and children in destructive ways."


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Part of this problem is gender-based. "We know that the development of verbal skills for boys at that age can be 12 to 18 months behind girls, yet they are in the same classrooms with similar, if not identical, expectations," said one admissions officer.

A kindergarten teacher commented, "Many schools set up their classroom and schedules to reflect a typical girl learner, not a young boy. Asking a 4 or 5-year-old boy to sit at a table and do prolonged work with a pencil and paper is asking far too much, and yet if we examine the kindergarten or first-grade schedule, they are shuffled from room to room, subject to subject, and we slowly take away their time to play and make independent choices, and recess becomes a distant memory to many fifth-graders. I watch parents as they tour our school and see the anxiety on their faces as they realize that their child is not 'ready' for all this."

Fessenden and Dexter (where JFK famously attended) are both private schools in Boston exclusively for boys. These schools neutralize the argument that boys need to be held back to keep up with girls by teaching them separately. Yet the issue isn't purely about boys keeping up with girls. It's about parents putting pressure on their very small kids and the teachers who teach them even when boys are being taught in an all-male environment.

"There are those families that enter with the attitude that they are paying for education and the play-based curriculum in the younger grades makes no sense to them," said one Boston-area teacher. "I will never forget the conference where the parent asked me repeatedly if his 5-year-old was in the top third, middle third, or bottom third of the class. My answer of how that was an inappropriate ranking of a kindergarten child made no impression on him. He explained that he needed to know if this expense was really worth it. There is an enormous lack of appreciation for childhood these days -- people see it merely as preparation for the rest of life, and there is not recognition of the inherent value of childhood experiences."


In the end the issue is about the kids and about how we collectively define learning. Perhaps the intense pressure at a young age amongst those financially capable of sending their kids to private school stems from a national public education system that is profoundly broken, where many kids cannot even read to grade level. Perhaps there is a feeling that if one's son doesn't have every advantage, they will not only not get into Harvard, they will fall between the cracks and become part of the unfortunate mass of undereducated and under-employed young people in our country.

Still, the Race to Nowhere, as a recent film calls it, does more harm than good -- whether boys are learning to play basketball or read a book. They don't really care if they are winning. They just want to play and read.

As parents we should know better than to put our anxiety on our kids like some kind of disease. Education is supposed to be an adventure, one that is largely directed by the child's own passions and inspirations. When it is working well, you see the child's eyes light up like a Christmas tree when he discovers something new and eagerly wants to tell you about it. It isn't a competition. There is no fixed amount of learning that goes into kindergartens across the country, and for which each family has to fight for more than their share. It is quite the opposite: Learning grows like a weed among children when it is shared. One child reinforces another's learning. It's as much a process for the group as the individual.


Yet despite all the negative indications of the broader trend, there are some cases when holding back a child does make sense.

One parent told me, "I have two boys who are summer birthdays -- one is now 28 and the other is 17. My wife, a teacher, and I chose to allow them to be older. While we do not pat ourselves on the back for our parenting, we do for this decision. Our older son had an unbelievable senior year in high school where he emerged as a very good athlete (late bloomer), his academics came together, and he won a bunch of awards -- none of which would not have happened if he had graduated a year earlier! His confidence level going off to college was sky high, which I don't believe would have been the case if he had not had the extra year. Our younger son, a June 1 birthday, had his struggles from an early age and is finally finding himself as a high school junior. Again, our thoughts as parents are that we cannot imagine him ready for college this year, but are very pleased and comfortable with his trajectory and readiness for college next year."

An administrator recently recalled, "A few years ago, my best friend since fourth grade told me that he wished he had repeated. Frankly, I was stunned by this statement because while I knew he was the youngest in our prep school class with a November birthday, I also know that he graduated first in our class in high school, first in his class in college, and first in his Ph.D. program at Stanford. I called him on this statement and asked why he felt that way and his response was, 'I was a late bloomer both socially and athletically. I was going to be smart regardless of which class I was in, but my overall experience in school would have been much more positive if I had had that extra time to develop in areas I was desperate to be successful and comfortable.'"


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So what to do about the increasing trend of holding boys back for kindergarten, not just at private schools but public ones too?

Maybe we should return to the core principals of what kindergarten is for. This doesn't mean we should never hold back a kid, but it should be the exception instead of the rule. And we must to do more to relieve the competitive pressure among parents and focus instead on how to serve the needs of kids.

"It constantly comes back to expectations," one teacher told me. "What do we teachers expect of our students? What do the parents expect of us? What do the parents expect of their children? An administrator recently told me her mantra is whatever works for the students. What she meant by this was that no matter how difficult the decision, she would always do what she felt would benefit the students, even if that meant firing a teacher, having a tough dissuasion with a parent, changing a school routine, or dispensing with a school tradition. It could all be done if it meant that the students would benefit. It is a motto we could all learn from, as schools these days are so bogged down with competition and politics that we often forget that schools exist to serve students."

Amen to that.

 

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10:37 AM on 05/18/2011
I just read an article with interesting research related to red-shirting. It is called "The Problem With Holding Kids Back from Kindergarten" by a Ms. Dell.
08:21 AM on 05/17/2011
A 4 year old starting kindergarten will be a 10 year old starting 6th grade. Not good.
09:04 AM on 05/17/2011
all my kids did it very successfully........as every kid has different capabilities........we still needed to advance 2 of them in 7th grade
10:34 AM on 05/17/2011
And seventeen starting college.
02:12 AM on 05/17/2011
Mr. Matlack refers to Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers suggesting that early bdays give an advantage to NHL hockey players, the same reasoning is succesfully applied to professional baseball and soccer players in this book. This point makes a lot of sense considering the physical element involved with these sports (11 months of extra development is a HUGE advantage in contact hockey). The whole issue is much more complex however and in his book Gladwell goes on to explain other outlying factors that may give students a competative advantage such as; the amount of time spent doing an activity (the 10,000 hours rule), socioeconmic status, and trends in the community/society play a significant role in the development of a student from pre-K through Harvard. Defintely worth the read, challenges our modern perception of success successfully!
12:28 AM on 05/17/2011
there is nothing wrong with paying for performance
01:40 AM on 05/17/2011
There is when the performance expectations are unrealistic!
08:46 AM on 05/17/2011
if they are unrealistic then there would be no pay as the performance expectations have not been met

still no problem
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06:28 PM on 05/16/2011
In California, at least until 2012-2013 School year, student who have b-days before DEC 3, can enter the Kindergarten if they will be 5 by DEC 3rd of that year. In 2012-2013, that is supposed to be moved up to Sept. 1 that they have to be 5. It's interesting though, and most Kinder teachers can't wait until the date is pushed up.
My youngest daughter is December 15 bday, and could not start school this past year. At first I was bummed, but now, seeing how she deals with pre-school, I'm glad that we had to wait. She may have been able to deal with it, but now she has a whole other year to get there.
My oldest turned 5 two weeks before school started, and her first few months at school were rocky, she had a difficult time sitting still. But eventually she got the hang of it.
12:26 AM on 05/17/2011
they do have special classes now in most public schools
06:10 AM on 05/17/2011
Few school have readiness kindergarten or transitional classes (between K and 1st grades) anymore. Our school has the readiness, even with that many parents fight putting them in readiness because some feel it's an insult (which is wrong) and others just want them into a full day program as soon as possible. Many kids at kindergarten screening are ready for kindergarten - mine were. But I was looking down the road at middle and high school and how she would handle her classmates. She starts middle school next fall and is now ready for it. No way could she have handled it this year.
06:10 AM on 05/18/2011
I live in CA and have 2 fall birthday kids. My girl was ready for K at not-quite-5 and 1st and not-quite-6. She is mature for her age and has done well in spite of being young for her grade.

My boy is much less mature than his big sister was at the same age. His fine motor skills in particular were lagging and his attention span much shorter. He did jr. K at not-quite-5, "transition" at not-quite-6, and won't start 1st until he's not-quite-7. Not to try to give him any competitive advantage but because he simply is on a slightly slower developmental timetable.
01:49 PM on 05/16/2011
Your child can only be older and more mature if other kids are younger and less mature. Your advantage and edge can only be at the expense of another child's disadvantage.

Having said this...all summer borns are not created equally. As has been stated over and over, age is a sorta arbitrary thing, right? My summer born daughter is now a 2nd grader in a private school. There are several summer born kids in her class that operate well above grade level in all areas. It would have been an absolute tragedy to red-shirt these kids. Then there's my kid... on grade level. She is rarely 1st in her class at anything but the teachers assure me she is a healthy, happy average 2nd grader. The work is challenging. Could this be an advantage? Never being bored, always having to stretch from habit instead of coasting with confidence? I don't know. I do resent the small number of red-shirted kids in her class. Someone has to be the youngest...someone will always be the youngest...why should some other parent's decision to give their kid an "edge" force my child to be younger by 13, 14, 15 and sometimes 16 months instead of the usual 12? I wish schools would figure out what they want...set a national birthdate limit and then leave it!
05:06 PM on 05/16/2011
They have tried. Unfortunately, it's resisted by people who want kids in the school as soon as possible. Having to pay for daycare is expensive and that's the school's problem I guess. (sarcasm)
05:57 PM on 05/16/2011
Agreed. Many parents of kids who are playing by the rules are beginning to resent parents who are trying to use their year + younger classmates to artificially inflate the red-shirted kids' egos. Some of the parents I have spoken with equate it to gaining an unfair advantage by cheating. Unfortunately, there will always be people who do not want to follow the rules.

If an asterisk were placed by these kids names and an explanation of the fact that the child is at least a year older, then I think the parents would not engage in this practice as often. These kids should be compared to their age peers, and a designation that they were not "mature enough" to handle being with their age peers would not sugar coat this fact.
06:18 AM on 05/17/2011
Seriously? Some kids aren't ready for school yet, so you want to asterisk them for life because you think it's a negative? In CT, the cutoff is December 31st which most educators and parents find ridiculous. It's been tough changing the rule to September 1st because of politicians and parents who want the kids in school earlier. You could easily put an asterisk by kids' names who started at four. Actually, you don't have to as you can usually tell whose younger by their behavior. Sometimes the behavior is bad or absent minded. But many times (especially when they get to first grade), you can just see that the child is still a baby. One of my kids have three December born four year olds in her class and they just couldn't keep up. Not because they weren't academically up to par, but they just needed to play and needed more down time then the rest of the class. A few would even curl up for a nap during silent reading time.
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01:24 PM on 05/17/2011
Who cares what the other parents think?
11:20 AM on 05/16/2011
My son missed the cut-off to attend public kindergarten by 11 hours. Though he was academically ready and had already completed a Montessori kindergarten curriculum, the school district would not bend the rules. We couldn't afford to keep him in private school, so he entered the public school system essentially repeating kindergarten. Though he was already reading chapter books, one of his main activities was coloring the letters of the alphabet. We moved midyear so he could attend the top-rated school in the district. School still was painfully easy for him. He was labeled a gifted student and excelled at everything - top reader, spelling bee winner, perfect grades on nearly everything. His intelligence was the most important factor, but being the oldest definitely was an advantage. We figured he was ivy-league bound for sure. But having never been challenged or needing to work hard (or at all, really), he failed to learn the study skills and organization required for advanced classes in middle and high school. He floundered and is now a mediocre student with poor self esteem. I believe if he had been challenged all along, this wouldn't have happened. Red-shirting, in this case, was a disaster. Most public schools just aren't set up to cater to individual student needs. One size fits all doesn't work.
11:28 AM on 05/16/2011
Did you enrich him in any way? Did you call the school to insist on more challenging work? I had the same situation as you did - gifted children are technically special ed and you have to ride the school as much as you ride your kid.
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02:23 PM on 05/16/2011
FYI, gifted students are NOT "technically special ed." There's a whole boatload of laws concerning modifications, etc. for sped students, and none of them include gifted students. Some districts choose to treat them that way, but that is choice and by no means universal (and it's my prediction that the number of districts who do that will decline rapidly as we continue to defund our schools).

Whether all of that should change is a whole separate conversation, but that is the way it currently is.
11:58 AM on 05/16/2011
@Amanda - I am sorry about your son's experience. Advocates of redshirting always say they NEVER EVER hear about it not working out or parents regretting it. I am thankful that you shared your experience. Obviously there is a downsize to it when things come too easy. I know you did not do it intentionally for the advantage, but many of the parents opting to do this will find out the hard way. Unfortunately, the child will suffer. Many are already experiencing it because parents are pointing out that these kids should do better because they are a full year to year and a half older. Kids are already beginning to see that some of these kids "do not belong" since they are older and represent an unfair advantage. I think it is a matter of time before a correction occurs. RS kids should have their own classes and be designated as x.5 (kingergarten and a half or 4th grade and a half) so they do not appear gifted or extraordinary and outshine kids a year or more younger. It is only fair that apples are compared to apples.
06:25 AM on 05/17/2011
But that doesn't happen. I could tell you mine is not the best student in the class, she's like everyone else. Holding her back did give her the growth and time to be able to FOCUS on her work and listen - so of course she does well because of that.
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11:07 AM on 05/16/2011
Education (like life in general) IS a competition, esp in schools who use a bell curve for grading. If your kid needs a little more time to be ready for it, you’re a fool not to provide it.
03:41 PM on 05/16/2011
But when is enough enough? If one year makes you look smart, then imagine how intelligent you will appear by staying back two years to have even more time to mature (sarcasm intended).
03:08 PM on 05/17/2011
They obviously won't look smart if they are that much older. But do you really think a hospital that's hiring a new resident doctor is going to care that one med school grad was a year older than another one?
09:37 AM on 05/16/2011
I wrote about my experience with kindergarten redshirting a few years ago here: http://bit.ly/mqgeCl. I found it utterly disturbing when my son, who was four and reading fluently and perfectly socially capable, was asked to stay back from kindergarten merely because of his age (one of the youngest in the class). If he had stayed back another year, he would have been bored to tears, which is exactly what many of the super-student older boys were in his kindergarten class.

I agree with the writer that kindergarten itself is broken - my son had one fifteen minute recess and was asked to sit in his seat completing worksheets for the rest of the day. But making your child older to endure this kind of torture doesn't really solve the problem; we parents need to turn our eyes toward what the schools are doing, focusing relentlessly on passing state tests, and ignoring all other parts of our children.

Redshirting is nothing but a perceived advantage that, in my experience talking to parents, was for social and sports reasons only.

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09:08 AM on 05/16/2011
BTW - I have personally witnessed boys who are early spring, not summer, babies who were redshirted to ensure athletic and academic advantage. When the children were given the gifted label, and the parents complained about boredom, I was shocked. Of course your child, who is 18+ months older than the regular aged child is bored! When I suggested having them tested to move up a grade (back to the original appropriate grade where competition would be more honest) to relieve boredom, the answer is always, no.

This is what leads me to believe that the move is often about competition and being the biggest and smartest in class, not what is in the best interest of the child. If my child were "bored out of his/her mind" in school, I would look into grade acceleration, ESPECIALLY if my child were 18+ months older than the average student.
09:38 AM on 05/16/2011
I agree with you completely, see my comment post above. This is exactly what's happening here in Texas.

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03:17 PM on 05/17/2011
Are you sure it's just not you being competitive? I don't mean to sound rude (but probably will like my other posts), but you seem to care a lot about who does better and awards. My kids have gotten a few awards, but I think they are the result of working hard and not being pressured by a parent that wants them to be the best in the class.
06:10 PM on 05/17/2011
Yep, I am sure. I have taught and seen first hand what these older kids do socially (most often) and academically to the dynamics of a classroom. The trend is growing, and it still isn't a fair practice. It is what it is, and I do care about the children that went to school on time and are shortchanged by parents who desire to circumvent the fairness of system to make their child feel better about themselves with false comparisons.

Many truthful parents openly admit they redshirt in order to give their child the opportunity to be the leader, more mature, smarter, more athletic and the opportunity to build their self esteem.
08:57 AM on 05/16/2011
Parents should be able to do what is in the best interest of their child, HOWEVER, if it negatively affects other children, then the red-shirted (RS) child should become ineligible in certain cases (i.e. field day when a RS child competes with a regular aged child, since the RS child is older and presumably faster. Also in gifted programs, if the child ever wants to be classified as gifted, that child should be moved to the appropriate/legal age/grade and forced to compete using that criteria. Top awards should also be off limits since the child has an artificial advantage, and varsity high school sports should be off limits for adults 18 and over).

Since the trend is for some parents to RS their kids, those kids should compete head to head for RS designated prizes (ie RS winner of 4th grade field day hurdles, RS 3rd grade top science fair winner) or group them in RS composed classes.

This way we keep the playing field level and respect the rights of parents. The RS tag will demonstrate the competition was not quite fair. RS parents should have no problems with this (RS class grouping) if the idea is to give them an extra year to mature. This way the RS kids do not benefit to the detriment of "playing by the rules" students by taking an award or coveted varsity spot that was due to the RS student being older.
06:28 AM on 05/18/2011
So because my November birthday DS wasn't ready for kindergarten at not-quite-5 (couldn't even write his name until he was 5 1/4 because his fine motor skills were lagging), you would deny him the chance to become high school valedictorian at 18? Seriously?

FWIW, I was one of the oldest kids in my grade (January birthday) while my DH was one of the youngest kids in his (November birthday). We both graduated top of our respective classes, were National Merit Finalists, scored the exact same on our SAT's, and got accepted to Stanford. Older kids may have a slight advantage in the primary grades, but by high school it's long gone.
08:41 AM on 05/18/2011
Yes, seriously. If the start age for kindergarten is 5, AND your child will be 5 by that time, then I believe you should send them like other parents.

I also think kindergarten or 1st grade should have nationally set start date with a battery of testing to prove your child is incapable or unfit to begin on time OR that your child is more than capable and well suited to begin prior to their mandated start date.

You just said your child did not learn to write their name until 5 1/4, but many children in kindergarten don't learn to write their names until then or later. So why is it okay for a 6 year old who has been writing for 9 months to enter a classroom with children who are true kindergarteners and appear as advanced, when in fact your child is a typical 1st grader?

Someone has to be the youngest in the natural age distribution, and your husband, by his stellar academic performance -especially being male- illustrated that being younger and or male is not a reason to hold a child back.
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12:32 AM on 05/16/2011
Reminds me...I have a relative who is a congressman and a neighbor asked him for a recommendation letter. Ok, that sounds normal, you may think. However, he was asking for him to write a recommendation letter for his 2 year old son, to get him in to a pre-preschool program, and had asked him because "with a congressman's signature, my son will certainly be accepted". Ridiculous! I was thinking though, what did he write in the letter? Billy fingerpaints and only gets some paint in his hair? Billy's fart jokes are at a 1st grade level? I mean come on...
12:28 AM on 05/16/2011
I read something, a rant perhaps, by a grade-school teacher in Brooklyn not too long ago, that postulated that one of the biggest "elephant-in-the-corner" problems in education is parents. Without much first-hand insight into the issue apart from conversations I've had with other parents about their children, I agreed at the time. This article definitely strengthens that agreement.

I think it's best exemplified above in the man asking if a Pre-K teacher could guarantee a child going to Harvard, but I see a lot of parents who don't recognize that their child is an individual completely separate from themselves. Dads who cringe at the idea that their son won't be an athletic savant (let alone even interested in sports) are a prime and ready example of this. At the end of the day, it is extremely unlikely that the children of those fathers will go pro, and they probably won't play college ball either. It's really sad to think that in many cases, the interests of the child are completely replaced by the fantasies of the parent.

Another big issue with redshirting is that it might be teaching children that winning is, in fact, everything. This may lead to a financially stable adulthood, but I know few people who landed high-paying jobs out of college, only to lose them due to drinking/drug problems (likely fostered by stress/unhappiness)

The problem with society is education. The problem with education is parenting.

Thanks, Tom.
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09:58 AM on 05/16/2011
It would appear our education system is the victim of two parenting extremes: the helicopter parents who try to engineer the best college outcomes for their kids while they're still in kindergarten, and the parents who are so disinterested they don't enforce a work ethic or a healthy respect for the classroom.

I blame much of this hyper-competitiveness on the fear that our economy is so skewed to the rich and powerful, parents worry about kids who are simply average.
03:03 PM on 05/16/2011
I completely agree, Humble.

However, it would seem that both of the prongs on this fork of bad parenting stem from the handle of not actually taking the time to get to know one's child. It's amazing to think how many of life's problems could be solved by talking at dinner.
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12:27 PM on 05/16/2011
I wonder what that parent will do when the kid grows up and says "I don't want to go to Harvard" I want to be a dancer or an artist and go to New York. Probably shoot himself.
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11:43 PM on 05/15/2011
My son has a late birthday (November) and I started him in kindergarten at 4 going on 5. I didn't even consider holding him back because he was already reading and was very articulate. It didn't harm him academically or socially. Sure, he was always a bit smaller than his classmates, some of whom were more than a year older, but since he gravitated to individual sports (skiing and golf) instead of team sports, it never really mattered. He's always been a confident kid. Looking back on it, I don't think I would have done anything differently.

We make these kids jump through crazy hoops as it is in the quest to get into a good college. Can't they just be kids for awhile, progressing at their own pace in their intended grade level? Do we really believe that every boy in grade school will eventually be a Division I NCAA athlete? There's a difference between challenging your kids and making everything a competition. I just wonder who is actually competing in this game: the boys or their parents?
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12:07 AM on 05/16/2011
For me and my brother it might've been good to start a little early. We both went in at 5 respectively but we both were a good foot taller than everyone else (I still remember getting teased as a 'beanpole'). My height eventually normalized with my classmates (a bit on the tall end) but my brother's didn't and being so much taller from the start effected him (he still slouches out of habit and doesn't enjoy being tall the way most people would). That said, there was no way for my mom to predict we'd grow faster than other kids and while my brother definitely could've been a Div I athlete, he lost interest in sports. Ultimately though, we both found our way.

There are too many factors to predict to in order to engineer "the perfect kid" with the "perfect schooling" like these parents want and it's disturbing that they seek this much control over their kids' lives. I just don't think it will lead to a healthy outcome at all.
09:09 AM on 05/18/2011
I think it is the parents competing FOR THE SAKE OF the kids. It is noble to want the best for our kids, and I do not think there is anything wrong with trying to give your kid the best scenario possible, BUT it should not be at the expense of other kids by providing false competition with younger kids.
11:36 PM on 05/15/2011
"the classroom dynamic is changing so that the kids who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who are bigger and more mature." There is no 'rule' that kids MUST start kinder by age 5; most states have laws that say a child must begin by age 6 or 7! I am a kindergarten teacher in CA, where our cutoff is later than most states - 5 by Dec. 2. With state standards requiring kinders to read &write simple sentences by the end of the year, many kids starting school at 4 are not ready to achieve this. This year I began teaching a "transitional" kinder class, for the youngest students- a 2 year program, introducing them to skills as they were ready for them, not rushing to make them acquire them before 1st grade. But as a public school, this program is optional- many parents refuse it; thinking this calls their child 'dumb'- not less mature. So those children go into the 1yr program, only to struggle socially if not academically. Parents fail to see "the big picture"- why wouldn't you want to send your child off to college at 18 instead of 17? My 3 children all attended a 2-year kindergarten, because they went to Catholic school, and if I refused it, I lost a coveted spot at the school. None of my kids bullied or caused a problem for their younger classmates. Rather, they were a role model for their younger peers.
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05:31 AM on 05/16/2011
I would argue, though, that the problem isn't that kindergarteners are too young but rather that kindergarten expectations are too high. As a fellow early childhood educator I am perfectly well aware that that isn't your fault, but it's a problem nonetheless.

If I had my way we'd repeal NCLB and redesign standards to meet children's developmental needs. If the 3rd grade test (or, better yet, a less standardized/more authentic form of assessment) were consistent with a typical 8-year-old's development, we wouldn't have to push fourth-grade work down to third, and third to second, and second to first, and first to kinder. And then kids wouldn't need to be 6 to succeed in kinder, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

And by the way, my birthday is Dec. 2, I started K at 4 and college at 17, and graduated summa from a top school. And did just fine both socially and academically all along the way, thanks very much. Young does not necessarily equal dumb OR "less mature."
05:22 PM on 06/21/2011
Hello,

I'm working on a story about redshirting and I'm wondering as a teacher - would you be interested in speaking with me?
Thanks, Nichole Marks / CBS