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Ahead of Debate, Citizens Demand Answers On Global Warming

Posted: 10/03/2012 4:39 pm

On Monday afternoon, a few miles north of the Denver arena where President Barack Obama and his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, will square off in their first debate Wednesday evening, a small group of parents and their children gathered for a climate rally. One youngster bore what appeared to be a colorful, homespun image of planet Earth in the shape of a heart. Other children held up images of tall smokestacks belching clouds of pollution, or signs bearing the number "350," a rallying cry that references what scientists say is the safe upper limit for carbon dioxide in the atmosphere -- a benchmark the planet has already passed.

At the end of the event, the group unveiled a billboard aimed at both presidential contenders. Emulating the hand-drawn style of a preschooler, the ad depicted a young girl flanked on one side by burning mountains, parched earth and an angry-faced sun, and on the other, by a soothing vignette of green fields, blue mountains, solar panels and a wind turbine.

"Dear Candidates," the sign reads, "Which way will you lead us?"

In a phone call, Lisa Hoyos, a co-founder of Climate Parents, one of the organizations behind the event, summed up the rationale for the rally. "As parents, we're concerned that an issue that will so seriously affect our kids' future -- and one that is already impacting communities across America -- is getting so little attention from both candidates," Hoyos said. "We'd like them to give us a really clear plan for how they're going to dramatically reduce emissions to the level that we need."

A more pointed comment came from 12-year-old Boulder, Colo., resident Xiuhtexcatl Martinez, who shared his thoughts with Hoyos when she was preparing an announcement for the event. "The survival of our generation is at stake because of the lack of action on climate change," Martinez said. "Neither of the candidates are taking climate change seriously, and it's the biggest threat we face as a human race."

Complaints that both Obama and Romney have been ignoring the true threat of global warming have reached a crescendo in the months and weeks leading up to November's election -- so much so that a coalition of nine different nonprofit groups, from the League of Conservation Voters and the Environmental Defense Fund to the Sierra Club and Al Gore's own Climate Reality Project, recently delivered a petition bearing 160,000 signatures to this evening's debate moderator, Jim Lehrer, urging him to quiz the two candidates on climate change.

"If the debate is intended to cover our nation's most important challenges, climate change must be part of the discussion," said Steve Cochran, vice president of climate and air at EDF. "The threat to our environment is simply too great to ignore."

And yet, environmental activists argue, the issue has been largely ignored, or downplayed, or otherwise set aside during campaign 2012 -- even as the planet has begun to buck and heave.

"Although Barack Obama and Mitt Romney sprinkle their speeches with mentions of energy and climate, they have remained stubbornly silent on the immediate and profound task of phasing out a carbon-based economy," declared the activists behind ClimateSilence.org, a website, launched last week, that tracks the candidates' public statements on the issue. "Their failure to connect the dots and do the math imperils our nation and prevents the development of a national and global plan to respond to the most urgent challenge of our era. It's time for their climate silence to end."

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Lisa Hoyos, co-founder of the group Climate Parents, addresses a small crowd in Denver seeking answers on climate change.

Pick your motivator: The month of July was the hottest month ever recorded in the lower 48 states since official record-keeping began nearly 125 years ago. As noted in a recent report prepared by key Democrats in the House Natural Resources and Energy committees, some 64 percent of the continental United States was experiencing drought in recent months. Wildfires are consuming huge swaths of the West. During the first half of this year, surface temperatures in the northeastern Atlantic Ocean shattered a record dating back to 1854. As Dr. Rhian Waller noted over at National Geographic two weeks ago, "This year has seen the Arctic sea ice sheet melt further, and faster, than has ever been seen before in human history."

A proliferation of polling data suggests that these events have not been lost on voters, particularly swing voters. And yet Romney -- who as governor of Massachusetts was once an eager supporter of clean energy, fuel efficiency and emissions caps -- has all but abandoned global warming as an issue, mocking regulatory efforts undertaken by the Obama administration that would curb greenhouse gases and deriding climate change in general during his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in August.

Obama, meanwhile, has made some in-roads on greenhouse gas reductions, including the development of tough new fuel efficiency standards for vehicles and a proposal for new limits on power plant emissions.

But the president has also argued for expanded domestic oil and gas exploration and touted the virtues of "clean coal" -- policies that environmental groups say undermine the idea that continuing to burn planet-warming fossil fuels is a real problem.

More than anything else, critics say, President Obama has failed to articulate to voters of all stripes, in clear and certain terms, that the time for incremental steps to address climate change is now over.

"What's lacking -- what's still lacking -- is visionary leadership on this issue," said Phil Radford, the executive director of Greenpeace USA, in a phone call this week. "There's a real desire out there to see someone really step up and lead, to work to get us off of oil and coal all together."

Whether the candidates will be asked to lay out their positions on global warming at Wednesday's debate -- and to defend those positions to an American electorate that deserves answers -- remains to be seen. I asked Lisa Hoyos of Climate Parents what she might ask Romney and Obama if she had the opportunity.

"I guess I'd say to them, 'As parents -- and you both are parents -- our primary responsibility is to safeguard our kids' future,'" Hoyos began. "Climate change is the biggest threat that puts that future in peril. What are you going to do to dramatically reduce emissions, scale up clean energy, and protect our communities?'"

That's what she would ask. What would you?

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01:59 PM on 10/23/2012
The next four years are going to be crucial in determining our response to climate change and the candidate who Americans will elect will be in large part responsible for America’s response.

If anyone is interested, my site, Climate Scores (www.climatescores.com) is grading the Presidential candidates on how they stand on climate change. We aim to give the necessary information to voters to make informed decisions in this critical time. It’s time for climate accountability.
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mojave green
Our enemies never sleep
07:10 AM on 10/07/2012
I'm beginning to think the AGW 'debate' is a deliberate attempt by a criminal government to keep people from even doing much looking into the geo engineering aimed at weather control that's been going on for decades. 'Chem Trails' has long been relegated to 'conspiracy theory' status but is now admitted and well documented and continuing. Aluminum oxide, barium oxide and a slew of other chemicals have been and are being sprayed on us daily and besides affecting the weather are killing trees and ruining soil worldwide. Two excellent documentaries, 'What in the world are they spraying' and 'Why in the world are they spraying' shocked me and anyone that claims to care about our environment needs to wake up to things I'd have considered unbelievable a few years back. It is no longer a theory, as AGW still is (and one that is full of holes IMHO), is criminal and ongoing and needs the attention of anyone that cares. As for the so called 'debates', no questions were asked or answered. Just like they planned them and even if they did ask substantive questions the answers most likely would have just been more lies. Since the Democrat/Republican joint venture incorporation got rid of the League of Women Voters, the 'debates' are no longer debates and watching them is just entertainment designed to keep people from thinking of the real issues....or for that matter thinking at all.
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Gebby
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07:33 AM on 10/06/2012
Mitt Romney believes in AGW. If he says this he may get more votes.
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
02:32 PM on 10/05/2012
The people who think we can significantly reduce c02 through wind and solar are the ones in denial.
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05:45 PM on 10/05/2012
Nice full analysis of why this is so, the details are really convincing.
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
01:11 PM on 10/08/2012
Here is 2011 Energy sour and consumption
https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/energy/energy_archive/energy_flow_2011/LLNLUSEnergy2011.png
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omobob
left coast, usa
04:52 PM on 10/04/2012
> Pick your motivator: The month of July was the hottest month ever recorded in the lower 48 states since official record-keeping began nearly 125 years ago. As noted in a recent report prepared by key Democrats in the House Natural Resources and Energy committees, some 64 percent of the continental United States was experiencing drought in recent months. Wildfires areconsuming huge swaths of the West. During the first half of this year, surface temperatures in the northeastern Atlantic Ocean shattered a record dating back to 1854. As Dr. Rhian Waller noted over at National Geographic two weeks ago, "This year has seen the Arctic sea ice sheet melt further, and faster, than has ever been seen before in human history."

Even the scientist don’t seem to know the difference between climate and weather. As far as ice recordings (100,000 years of recorded weather)  tell us we are in the last 2,000 years of the warming trend before the next ice age. Does this help?
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kwaut lizard
Reductio ad Absurdum
03:35 PM on 10/04/2012
Never dreamed of the day that environmental issues would be a pariah issue in political debate.

Thank you Heartland Institute, you are the gift that keeps on giving and have truly exposed America for the uneducated country that it is.
ubrew12
that crazy uncle from Amarcord
07:34 PM on 10/04/2012
with any luck, they can get us all smoking again...
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kwaut lizard
Reductio ad Absurdum
05:30 AM on 10/05/2012
Absolutely on target with that one. Cheers
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
10:16 AM on 10/05/2012
You're being a little hard on your countrymen/women... I know lots of sensible Americans who are extremely exasperated by the lack of debate..
We're only a little way ahead in Europe, and it takes time, effort and determination to debunk the likes of the Heartland Institute, Monckton, Beck and their merry band of incredibly naive followers... but keep trying; after all, it's only our children's future we're fighting for.. good luck
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kwaut lizard
Reductio ad Absurdum
11:56 AM on 10/05/2012
I don't live in the vicinity, from afar it doesn't suggest that the issue is in the forefront of debate or even on the table. I hope that the condition I see is truly not the case inside US borders. Please encourage these caring constituents to demand it. I do at every opportunity that rears its head in the offshore'd world of corporate America.

Then we'll work on rebuilding an unbiased and comprehensive media capable of presenting two sides of an argument unemotionally. BTW I've committed the better part of my life to this cause celebré, a rollercoaster ride with never a dull moment.
01:04 PM on 10/04/2012
The main problem is that we can't really do much about climate. A second problem for these camaigners is that the gentle warming of the past 100 years is overwhelmingly beneficial, as is the increase in ambient CO2 levels. So, on the one hand the climate gets generally better and plants are thriving a bit more, and on the other the climate system is way beyond our control. Not much there to gain political advantage from now that the intellectual vapidity of the climate alarmists has been exposed in some quarters, and will gradually spread to many others.
ubrew12
that crazy uncle from Amarcord
02:14 PM on 10/04/2012
"the intellectual vapidity of the climate alarmists has been exposed"
Do you mean, like those alarmists in the Dept of Defense and the CIA?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/renee-parsons/climate-change-national-security_b_1929398.html?utm_hp_ref=climate-change
To quote a USAF general: "dramatic population migrations, pandemic health issues and significant food and water shortages due to... climate change"
And a Vice Admiral in the Navy: "climate change [may] create... humanitarian disasters on a scale and at a frequency far beyond those we see today."
This is not just a few green-nuts that somehow became top officers in the DOD. It is actually the official position of the DOD that climate change poses a national security threat. A recent intelligence estimate by the CIA concluded "water challenges worldwide [due to climate change] will pose a threat to U.S. security interests."
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kwaut lizard
Reductio ad Absurdum
03:33 PM on 10/04/2012
Maybe not, he may be referring to those intellectually vapid commodities brokers, insurance adjusters, coastal developers, urban planners, hydrological engineers, and their ilk who have already responded so carelessly to this non-threat in order to bring the general public things like food, insurance, coastal protection, city drainage, catchment basin management, ..... you know, just little stuff like that.

Crazy uncle from Amarcord .... LOL brilliant. Absolutely love Fellini.
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omobob
left coast, usa
04:56 PM on 10/04/2012
Good points. Well said. faved. cheers
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blackwind
Relax, nothing is under control
04:45 PM on 10/04/2012
Plants are "thriving a bit more"? Where? And where is the climate getting "better"?
Doesn't sound like you're keeping up on the news much, and you must be watching some kind of cartoons or something for your facts.
11:32 AM on 10/04/2012
climate change won't get a mention in the debates because the majority of voters believe it doesn't directly affect us right now. Maybe when we are paying $50 for a potato, people will give it more importance
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agomez44
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if th
04:35 AM on 10/05/2012
True. Or seeing more coastal cities flood
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
10:21 AM on 10/05/2012
...by which time, however, it'll be miles too late...
10:57 AM on 10/04/2012
Honestly, all ppl want is low prices on whatever fuel you provide.
ubrew12
that crazy uncle from Amarcord
08:19 PM on 10/04/2012
also a chicken in every pot and tax cuts.
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03:21 PM on 10/05/2012
Ideally we should never have to pay a RED CENT to our government for anything, and they should let us do whatever we want without interference, and they should keep all the roads in top shape, and they should keep our military 5 times bigger than anyone else on Earth, and they should make sure our water that we drink is clean even though the EPA is evil, and we should never have to think about where our waste goes and we should be able to use whatever resource we want (fish for example) as much as we want without restriction until they're all gone.
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Liven-in-iraq
03:07 AM on 10/04/2012
Nope!. This isn't a national issue. Jobs, debt, economy are first.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
03:52 AM on 10/04/2012
All of which will be impacted on this issue. The problem is, people need to be educated in a broader sense by leadership. Embrace the issue and put energies into green job creation, eliminating energy tax loopholes to help the debt, impose carbon revenue neutral taxes to incentivize efficiency and both will serve the economy better.
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Monrdhil
sustain-able climate
04:31 AM on 10/04/2012
Climate is, in a way, the sum of all meteorological events. If you don't mind tornadoes, hurricans, and other blizzards, you may consider climate as not important.

But recent facts shows the economical impacts of all those repetitive do not improve economy strength.
10:59 AM on 10/04/2012
So if we switch to a zero carbon society tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards will end?
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01:09 PM on 10/04/2012
Well science tells us that tornadoes and hurricanes have been declining for years and that climate change will decrease blizzards. So yes, it appears that compared to jobs, debt and the economy climate change is not important.
01:59 AM on 10/04/2012
Tom answers his own article. A title with "Citizens demand" followed by inside the article "..a s-m-a-l-l (emphasis added) group of parents and their children gathered for a climate rally."
01:33 AM on 10/04/2012
Maybe someone can help me with this, read a recent poll that asked ten different things of importance, the economy was number one at 38% the environment was last at .09% ..
ubrew12
that crazy uncle from Amarcord
07:04 AM on 10/04/2012
I think you just figured out why the economy will never be fixed.
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
10:40 AM on 10/05/2012
Yes, I can help with that... sufficient people aren't sufficiently informed about the issues involved.

If people are spoon-fed misinformation, they remain dependent upon the person holding the spoon.

If you spoon-feed the population with the mantra 'it's the economy, stupid!!', then is it any wonder that most (spoon-fed) people believe what their spoon-holders are feeding them?

Does that help a little?

The exercising of the 'common sense' gene works wonders..!!
02:43 PM on 10/05/2012
Thanks
12:58 AM on 10/04/2012
Very few people still buy the global warming myth. It has been debunked.
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Robearbeach
Anthropological Linguist-Native American Languages
01:50 AM on 10/04/2012
Only the clueless, viz. 95% of HuffPo readers.
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north of 60
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
02:17 AM on 10/04/2012
Of course the planet has been warming since the last ice age, it's not a myth. Don't confuse the natural warming/cooling cycles with the silly notion that humans are causing it.
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blackwind
Relax, nothing is under control
03:01 AM on 10/04/2012
It hasn't been warming since the last ice age.
The warming that melted the ice was over many thousands of years ago.
http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/b/bb/Holocene_Temperature_Variations_Rev.png The recent warming is no part of that, and there isn't any known "cycle" that can account for it either. There is however, a really obvious cause being observed, and that's the huge increase in a known warming agent: CO2.
The silly notion is that humans AREN'T causing it.
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agomez44
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if th
12:42 AM on 10/04/2012
Absolutely. Count me as a voting citizen who wants the candidates to address climate change. I listen to experts, and not so much of what politicians say.
11:02 AM on 10/04/2012
Well neither have and won't ever until the solution's prices fall. So I take it you are not voting
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agomez44
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if th
04:23 AM on 10/05/2012
Why would I not vote? That wouldn't make sense. Even though the two candidates currently are not emphasizing climate change, the President has stressed the importance of decreasing the rate of carbon in the atmosphere. The fuel standards and new building codes and energy efficiencies give me some hope, but he continues to build Keystone pipeline. He is being told it will create jobs but scientists say the process of separating the oil from the tar in Canada and burning the resulting oil would be disastrous. In the words of James Hansen in NASA, one of the most respected scientists in the U.S., said it would be "game over" for our climate. Life, our food, and ocean currents are connected with the climate. Everything will be effected. Romney on the other hand says he would speed up the pipeline without review. I believe he is just doing what his party believes, that climate change is not an issue. I can't take these people seriously when the majority of scientists say we are very close to the tipping point.
12:17 AM on 10/04/2012
So then, lead the way. Personally boycott all fossil fuels and everything made from or with them. Make your next post about how you are doing that and will for the rest of your days.

Or is an appropriate expression of angst without sacrificial personal action enough?
01:01 AM on 10/04/2012
Natural gas is clean and we have more than 100 years supply. Clean coal and drilling in North America will get us energy self sufficient and provide many years of cheap fuel. Stop wasting money on boondoggles like Solyndra and stop destroying our scenery with inefficient wind turbines.
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
02:22 AM on 10/04/2012
Yes energy can be extracted from coal without toxic pollution, however people are not willing to pay more for energy to make that happen. As long as money is the primary metric, a large percent of humanity is doomed to die. Overpopulation is essentially self regulating. The more people there are the greater the percent of stupid people will inevitably screw it up.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
03:56 AM on 10/04/2012
The Solyndra "boondooie is .05% of the clean energy budget...next
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Robco1
10:44 AM on 10/04/2012
Gee, I wonder which industry provides you with a paycheck...