Religion, for better or for worse, has been politicized in blatant ways that have seldom been equaled in American elections. Evangelical Christians, who once were a ridiculed irrelevant sectarian movement, have, over just three decades, become a powerful voting bloc that can no longer be ignored. It is a tribute to the leadership of the late Jerry Falwell, the televangelist Pat Robertson and the radio talk-show psychologist Jim Dobson that the Religious Right has become such a dynamic social force. They, along with other notable spokespersons, have given Evangelical Christians a voice in the political arena that can be heard loud and clear. So thoroughly have they allied Evangelical Christianity with their conservative political ideologies that Evangelicalism has become, in the popular mind, synonymous with the Religious Right.
There are others of us, however, who would like to wander back to the 19th and early 20th century when Evangelical Christianity was politically very different. Remembering the ways in which Charles Finney, the "Billy Graham" of the 19th century, championed the anti-slave and early feminist movements; and William Jennings Bryan who articulated many of the policies that are now championed by the Democratic Party, we are trying to create a new movement that seeks to make faithfulness to Biblical Christianity an imperative for progressive politics.
Given the general contemporary meanings and connotations ascribed to the word "Evangelical," a group of us who are speakers and authors and who share an evangelical theology got together and confessed that we have a hard time applying the label to ourselves anymore. This group included Brian McLaren, a leader in the emerging church movement; Richard Rohr, the well-known Catholic writer and speaker; Cheryl Sanders, a prominent African-American pastor; Noel Castellanos, a strong voice in the Latino community; and Jim Wallis and Duane Shank, two key leaders of the Sojourners Community and the Call to Renewal movement. We struggled to come up with a new name to define ourselves.
As you can well imagine, we had a hard time. We did not want to call ourselves "progressive Evangelicals," because that might imply a value judgment on those who do not share our views. We batted around several possible names, and then, in the midst of our discussions, the name "Red Letter Christians" was proposed.
Actually, the name was first used by a secular Jewish country-western disc jockey in Nashville, Tennessee. During a radio interview with Jim Wallis, the DJ tried to nail down Jim's particular breed of Christianity and finally said, "So you're one of those Red Letter Christians -- you know -- who's really into those verses in the New Testament that are in red letters."
Jim answered, "That's right!" And with that, he spoke for all of us.
By calling ourselves Red Letter Christians, we are alluding to those old versions of the Bible wherein the words of Jesus are printed in red. In adopting the name, we are saying that we are committed to living out the things that Jesus taught.
The message in those red letters is radical, to say the least. If you don't believe me, just read Jesus' words in the Sermon on the Mount, found in Matthew 5-7. In the red letters of this sermon, Jesus calls us to an "upside-down Kingdom," far away from the dominant values of the modern American consciousness. For instance, Jesus tells us that we cannot be sucked into a system that seeks life's meaning and satisfaction in materialism and self-gratification while still claiming to serve God. Furthermore, He challenges many of the social policies that too many Evangelicals fail to question. Consider the fact that He calls us to be merciful (see Matt. 5:7) which has strong implications for how we should think about capital punishment -- and since Jesus also tells us to love our enemies, we probably shouldn't consider it an option (see Matt. 5:44). These words should cause us to examine our attitudes about war, as well. Most important, when we reflect on all Jesus had to say about caring for the poor and oppressed, committing ourselves to His red-letter message just might drive us to see what we can do politically to help those he called, "the least of these" (see Matt. 25:31-46).
It seemed to us newly named Red Letter Christians at one of our early meetings that Evangelicals often evade what Jesus said in those red letters in the Bible, and that this evasion lends some credence to Mahatma Gandhi's claim that everybody in the world knows what Jesus taught -- except for Christians!
We decided to refute that claim. And we began with the grounding essentials that make us Christian.
First, Red Letter Christians hold to the same theological convictions that define Evangelicals. We believe in the doctrines set down in the Apostles' Creed, which states the central beliefs the Church has held over centuries:
I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord;
who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried;
He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;
He ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand
of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come
to judge the quick and the dead.I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic Church;
the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting.
Second, we are Christians with a very high view of Scripture. The writers of Scripture, we believe, were invaded by the Holy Spirit and were uniquely guided by God as they wrote, providing us with an infallible guide for faith and practice. We emphasize the "red letters" because we believe that you only can understand the rest of the Bible when you read it from the perspective provided by Christ.
Third -- and this is most important -- we claim that the historical Jesus can be alive and present to each and every person, and that salvation depends on yielding to Him and inviting Him to be a vital, transforming presence in our lives. The same Son of God described in the Apostles' Creed will spiritually invade any of us who will receive Him (see John 1:12) to initiate in us an ongoing process whereby we are transformed into persons who are increasingly like Him (see I John 3:2).
From those essentials, we turned to what priorities make us Red Letter. What differentiates Red Letter Christians from other Christians is our passionate commitment to social justice -- hence, our intense involvement in politics. This involvement sometimes makes us controversial.
Whereas some leading Evangelical spokespersons focus almost all their attention on preventing gay marriages and overturning past Supreme Court rulings on abortion, Red Letter Christians, while recognizing the great importance of these issues, embrace a broad range of social concerns, giving special attention to legislation that provides help for the poor and hope for the oppressed. Declaring that there are more than 2,000 verses of Scripture that call us to express love and justice for those who are poor and oppressed, we promote legislation that turns biblical imperatives into social policy. We again concur with Gandhi when he said, "Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is."
An example of this elemental relationship between faith and politics was William Wilberforce, a political leader who became a leading influence in the British Parliament for the abolition of slavery. The recent motion picture, Amazing Grace, gives us a portrait of this relentless man of faith, whose religious convictions compelled his sustained campaign against slavery. The idea that Wilberforce's religion should have no place in the civic sphere would never have occurred to him -- it was his faith that thrust him into politics.
Poverty is a major concern for Red Letter Christians. We find it significant that in Christ's story of the rich man and Lazarus, as recorded in Luke 16:19-31, the sin that warrants the rich man's condemnation is that he "feasted sumptuously" while remaining indifferent to the poor man at his gate. Given such biblical illustrations of God's concerns, we contend that we have a God-given responsibility to share with the poor and to be a voice for the voiceless oppressed. On the day of judgment, the Lord will not ask theological questions so much as He will ask if we fulfilled our social obligations. He will ask whether or not we fed the hungry, clothed the naked, received and cared for aliens, and brought deliverance to captive peoples (see Matt. 5:31-45).
Several years ago I was having dinner in a restaurant in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. I was seated comfortably at a table next to the front window of the restaurant, ready to begin enjoying my meal, when I realized I was being watched. With their noses pressed flat against the glass, three raggedy, dirty Haitian boys stared at the food on my plate. Their hair was rust-colored because of a lack of protein and they had the distended stomachs that give evidence of extreme malnutrition. Their eyes, riveted on my food, were disturbing. To say the least.
The waiter, recognizing how upset I was, moved quickly to pull down the window shade. "Don't let them bother you! Enjoy your meal!" he said.
As if I could.
In a sense, isn't that what we all do? Don't those of us who live comfortable lives "pull down the shade"? Don't we hide ourselves from those millions of desperate people who press their noses against the glass barrier that separates them from sustenance we have on this side? Don't we, for the most part, ignore the 6 million children who die each year of either starvation or diseases related to malnutrition?
We Red Letter Christians are committed to raising the window shades and confronting the needs of the poor. We are Christians who will press for social policies that address and meet these needs.
Presently the United States allocates less than four-tenths of 1 percent (0.4%) of its federal budget to address world poverty. While much has been done by voluntary organizations, and especially by churches and other faith-based organizations, the richest people on the face of the earth ought to have a government that does better than that. Americans make up 4.5 percent of the world's population, and consume more than 40 percent of the world's resources. Given that reality, there is something terribly amiss when our national budget ranks second to last of the 22 industrialized nations for assistance to the world's poor.
Poverty, however, is not just a malady that affects developing nations. Extreme poverty is an increasing reality here in our own country. You don't have to go to the Third World anymore to visit the Third World. Third-World conditions exist in urban neighborhoods in cities of America and in the lonely hills of Appalachia.
If you need a case study to illustrate the dire consequences of poverty for its victims, take a look at Camden, New Jersey. In that city, just across the Delaware River from Philadelphia (the birthplace of American independence), the ravages of poverty are in blatant evidence. One out of every seven houses has been abandoned over the last decade. Conditions in the city are so bad that those who could got out of town -- even though buyers for their property could not be found.
Only 13.6 percent of families with children are headed by married couples.
In a city of 80,000, there are only two emergency rooms.
Crime is rampant -- year after year, Camden registers the highest per-capita murder rate of any city in the nation.
More than 10,000 outsiders drive into the city each day to buy drugs.
If you are a 15-year-old male, there is a nearly 40-percent probability that you will spend two years in jail before you are 30.
Recently, both the mayor and the district attorney were arrested on charges of ties to the Mafia.
The school system is in shambles -- there was so much inefficiency and corruption in the administration that the state's board of education had to intervene and take over.
Less than 50 percent of those who attend the two major high schools in Camden ever graduate, and there is no telling how many of them are functionally illiterate.
Various industries that once provided jobs are gone. Campbell's Soup, RCA, Whitman's Candies, and Schaeffer Pens have all moved out. The downtown stores are closed and banks have relocated. The unemployment rate in Camden now stands at approximately 15 percent.
Those who say that the problems of places like Camden can be resolved in a libertarian fashion -- with churches and other voluntary organizations meeting the needs of the city without government programs and dollars -- have a hard time convincing people like me. I strongly believe that while churches and charities have done incredible work to alleviate the suffering of the needy, they cannot provide universal health care or guarantee a minimum wage. These fall under the province of government.
At election time, questions should be asked about what candidates propose for such places as Camden. We dare not walk away from such social chaos.
Edmund Burke, the British social philosopher, once said, "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." Most of us have heard those words at one time or another. But now is the time for us to respond to Burke's ultimatum.
Red Letter Christians accept that challenge as a call to political action. We are people who, when the death knell sounds on behalf of the poor and socially downtrodden peoples of the world, do not ask for whom the bell tolls. The prophetic words of the poet John Donne resound in our ears: "The bell tolls for thee!"
Consider the fact that 47 million Americans have no medical coverage, and the insurance situation for the poorest Americans is worsening every day.
The gap between the rich and the poor widens each day. Corporate executives now have incomes that are 400 times greater than the average worker.
Given inflation, the buying power of the typical worker has dropped dramatically over the past 15 years.
Every day thousands more of our fellow citizens fall below the poverty level.
Foreclosures on house mortgages are rising exponentially while homelessness has become a national epidemic. Presently it is estimated that more than 3.5 million people -- 1.5 million children among them -- experience homelessness every year. Those who provide shelters for people living on the streets claim that they cannot meet the demand. At least 20 percent of homeless people are military veterans, shameful evidence of our hypocrisy when we talk patriotically about honoring those who have served in the armed services. What's even more shocking is that half of all homeless people are women and children.
There are Evangelicals who argue against environmentalism, claiming that global warming is a myth (or at least grossly exaggerated), and that environmental concerns distract Christians from those matters that should fully occupy our moral and political attention: gay marriage and abortion. They seem to have ignored the biblical assertion that God didn't create land and sea to be abused and misused for our own selfish purposes. These brothers and sisters in Christ do not give adequate attention to God's call to be stewards of the natural world, not just for our own sakes, but also for the good of others. Yes, the environment is a justice issue. It's easy to disregard the mounting urgency of environmental issues when one doesn't have to live in places where noxious fumes from oil refineries and toxic waste make for increased cases of cancer and lung disease, or where rapidly changing climate threatens the community's livelihood.
These Christians don't understand that environmental degradation in the developing world is a major contributor to extreme poverty. In Haiti, for example, there has been incredible deforestation over a very short period of time, directly contributing to the hunger of Haiti's citizens. There are 84 percent fewer trees standing today than 20 years ago. Consequently, when there are heavy rains in Haiti, there is vast soil erosion, which dramatically diminishes the capacity of the land to grow good crops. Not to mention that when hurricane season comes, the torrential downpours create flooding and landslides that wipe out entire villages.
Another example of the developing world hit hardest by environmental carelessness is in Africa, where changing weather patterns contribute to desertification. The Sahara is expanding across the African continent at the rate of three miles a year, exacerbating widespread droughts and famine, and exponentially reducing tillable land.
It is the epitome of selfishness for those Christians who are least affected by the destructive exploitation of the earth to suggest that environmental issues ought not to be among our primary political concerns.
We Red Letter Christians consider ignoring the necessity of legislation to address such careless disregard as more than a disgrace: We call it sinful. And if some of those old Hebrew prophets were around today, they would have a lot to say about it.
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I think you're missing the point when you say, "There are Evangelicals who argue against environmentalism, claiming that global warming is a myth (or at least grossly exaggerated), and that environmental concerns distract Christians from those matters that should fully occupy our moral and political attention: gay marriage and abortion." You expect people to care about "the environment." Look at how much we lost when we started speaking of "the environment" instead of Nature. But why should anyone care about "the environment" especially when contemporary relativism undermines the most basic element of Human Nature -- our awareness of the soul and our command to respect human life.
Mother Theresa got to the heart of the problem when she said, "if a mother can kill her own child, what is to keep any of us from killing each other?" The heartlessness of abortion stands at the core of all the social issues upon which you would have us fix our attention. Carrying a pregnancy to term is a gesture of faith, faith in the providence of God, faith in an unknowable future, thankfulness for a wonderful gift of life. Jesus's mother accepted her pregnancy in humility, and it's hard to see how Christianity has any meaning at all if abortion is sanctioned.
The pressure to accept gay marriage is a similar gesture, though more subtle. It's a way of dividing the church and dissolving it over a contrived and false controversy about acceptance. If the church conforms to the expectations of the world, in what sense is it still a church? And if it is not a church, then what is the point? The real question, the only question that can possibly matter, with regard to the church is what does God require? People who want designer religion are chasing after the trappings of religion, a kind of "good housekeeping seal of approval" for their "lifestyles."
As to people who found Evangelicals foolish and ridiculed them, I don't think that genuine followers of Christ have ever cared how they stood in the cavalier and ephemeral opinions of the world. And why should they? If their hearts are fixed on God, they have a real anchor of being to take them through life.
Anyone who wants to find God needs to care only about what God wants.
Everything else is irrelevant.
Let they who are without sin, cast the first stone.
Jesus would be anti-abortion and pro choice.
I though I was a red letter Christian, but your rigid definition convinced me I am a lapsed heretical red letter lover of the best words of Christ.
I only care about the words of Jesus in the Gospels. Even then you have to realize it is a translation of hearsay.
If you are really Christian, you should renounce all of the bible but the Gospels. The other parts of the bible, picked by Constantine, have been used for 2 eons to justify every sort of evil.
Tony,you wrote that you are a "red letter" christian.
What happens when we follow ALL of the "red letter" words?
Jesus said: (IN RED LETTERS)
Mark 14:7 "For the poor you always have with you, and whenever you wish, you can do them good; but you do not always have Me.
Luke 18:22 And when Jesus heard [this,] He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess, and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."
Tony, you would use force, the force of government, to take from one to give to another.
Jesus said to GIVE first, not TAKE!
Jesu said to then, after giving: "and come,follow Me"
They said they wanted to do this so they could steal for themselves, money and power over their fellow men. See John 12:6
No wonder that so many have written they fear such "christians" such as yourself.
Jesus said, the poor will be with us always, therefor "whenever you wish, you can do them good"
Not whenever goverment wishes!
So what is the difference between what you propose, taking money by force, and the taking of political power by force by Mr. Bush in Iraq?
They both appear wrong (sinfull) to me.
And if you care to look, Jesus had some choice things to say about hypocrites.
We are truely in need of meaningful change. I don't believe you have a clue.
Jesus said, (in red letters)
Joh 8:31 ¶ Jesus therefore was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;
Joh 8:32 and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
Joh 8:36 "If therefore the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.
Jesus is about true freedom and liberty. You are about legislation and law and bondage, by force, to government.
You come in the guise of a christian.
Spare us, please. Go back to where you came from. PLEASE!
"render unto Caesar" Jesus was clear, that you should give the government it's due.
Are you one of those who want only Christian in the government but you don't want the government to act in a Christ-like manner?
Try living by the words in red for a year. Read them every day. They cover it all.
Tony wrote: "the necessity of legislation to address such careless disregard"
Richard Maybury, a self proclamed agnostic, wrote a short monograph back in the early 1980's about a new religion he saw. He made several important points:
1. There is a new and rising religion in our country having a god named "Goverenment"
2. This god can solve any problem.
3. Legislators are the high priests of this new religion and thru the special rites of legislation will find the solution to ALL problems.
His conclusion is that we make ourselves, government, god. And history shows that this god is a total failure, legislative programs haven't solved our problems.
Question: So why are you, Tony, proposing more of the same failure as the cure when we know it doesn't work?
I am an evangelical Christian. I suspect that we would find little disagreement doctrinally. Professing Christ by our words without first witnessing by our lives really does not proclaim the Gospel. I am, however, politically conservative and it is there that we must part. I have no problem with any Christian finding motivation for his or her political activism in moral standards defined by the understanding of the teachings of Christ. The line that must not be crossed, however, is using the power of government to advance agenda as specifically Christian. It is a fine, but extremely important line.
The power of government is to compel individuals to conform. The power must be used to accomplish matters such as common defense, public works projects, environmental protections, etc, that can only be accomplished collectively. You, however, propose compelling one citizen to transfer wealth to another citizen to serve Christian ends. As a political proposition I would debate that as a legitimate function of government. When you raise the focus to an expectation of Christians to serve Christ, then you have crossed the line.
Using the power of government to compel any citizen, whether believer or non-believer, to meet a Christian agenda is a dangerous thing. I do not care whether the advocate is you or James Dobson. You favor it as an extension of your goals, but put the same power in the hands of others with different goals founded on different doctrinal interpretations, or different religions, and you may find it not so palatable. Whether or not government is the proper vehicle to accomplish the ends that you propose is a perfect matter for political discourse and debate in which I am happy to engage. That we are called to those ends as Christians I find almost beyond debate. But when you suggest that they are legitimate ends of government because they are Christian ends you go too far. I value my freedom as a Christian and value the freedom of others not to choose Christ. Jesus can only claim free hearts, not those compelled to comply.
We find ourselves in a place where Christianity has had a great influence on our national politics, it has even delievered us a president, and he has established a faith based component of the executive. We also find ourselves starting a war. There seems to be a disjunction between Christianity and our war. What do they say about it? I think Tony is struggling with some concepts here, but it is surprising that we could find ourselves so involved in war and so many evils that accompany it, and for the most part Christianity is just silent. If they previously backed the wrong side, they can't fix things by ignoring them. I am concerned that we just seem to sink deeper and deeper into the pit.
You said, "That we are called to those ends as Christians I find almost beyond debate. But when you suggest that they are legitimate ends of government because they are Christian ends you go too far. I value my freedom as a Christian and value the freedom of others not to choose Christ. Jesus can only claim free hearts, not those compelled to comply."
From that one can safely assume that you would not favor government intervention to prevent the termination of a pregnancy? Right?
I thought not.
I particularly like Christ's statement: "where two or three are gathered together in my name, there will I be also."
Of course I finish it: "But watch out when there are four or five."
Tony sits crosslegged on the floor of his study, head bowed, eyes closed. He's surrounded by a score of open leather-bound tomes and sheafs of handwritten notes scattered everywhere. His pensive look contorts into the grimace of a person nine months pregnant with thought about to give birth to a penetrating insight. A final cerebral contraction. A gray matter groan registering 8.5 on the limbic scale. Then, a satori shout of ultimate truth geysering up from the mystery-shrouded metaphysical depths of being to the surface of a conscious mind bathed in enlightenment. "That's it! What American politics and government need most! Huge gobs of mythology, superstition, and irrational belief from the left as well as the right!"
The delivery of this realization took six seconds. On the seventh, Tony rested.
I think that we need to look at inner poverty. In a country of such wealth, it's disturbing that within all classes of society exists inner poverty. Poverty of education, morality, critical thinking, judgement etc... We need a new direction for ourselves. Go to: www.themiracleinsidemymind.com
I'm glad that somebody else has noted the highly inappropriate use of William Jennings Bryan as a "progressive" model. Bryan did indeed indulge in a lot of flowery rhetoric about the poor and poverty. However, Bryan had faults in addition to being a religious crank on the subject of "Darwinism". As Publisher's Weekly notes in a review of Michael Kazin's biography of Bryan, "In a speech delivered, ironically, on July 4, 1906, Bryan argued that 'blacks carried away into slavery have been improved by contact with the whites.'" Also PW says, "But the fundamentalist bigot in Bryan trumps the earnest populist at every turn. In sum, Kazin's heroic Bryan is simply not to be believed." Yes, there is gushing praise for Kazin's book, but Bryan's woeful attitudes about matters of race have been noted elsewhere (I suppose that's the cue for practitioners of the "historical/social context" fallacy). I strongly suspect that Campolo has been too much influenced by Kazin where Bryan is concerned.
Also, I have noted with some disgust, the attempts to rationalize Campolo's statement, "...we are trying to create a new movement that seeks to make faithfulness to Biblical Christianity an imperative for progressive politics." Nit-picking arguments about the difference between political office and political movements just don't cut it. The phrase "faithfulness to Biblical Christianity" *necessariily* includes accepting Jesus as the "son of God", the "savior", and all of that related theological baggage. Non-Christians who have no self-respect may be willing to ignore that unpleasant reality, but I agree with the poster who said that if being a "progressive" requires being a Christian, then I am no "progressive", and furthermore, am glad of it.
Isn't is essence what you're really saying is that if you pay lip service to other people concerns that you can create a wider marketplace for peddling your book and pushing the real doctrines of your extreme right wing agenda? This is clearly shown by your credulous admiration of the false prophet trio of Falwell, Robertson and Dobson.
Caring for the poor and the environment is not "liberal". It's something which you are COMMANDED TO DO by the tenants of your own religion. Meddling in politics and other people's lives is something which you are COMMANDED NOT TO DO, but that doesn't seem to resonate if there is a buck to be made, territory to be claimed or public exaltation to be staked out for yourself. Pharisees were not only historical figures but archetypes for all ages demonstrating the hypocrisy of those who make religion their profession.
how marvelous... Having now developed a distaste for their Republican playmates and their bathroom stances and such, the bookthumpers have decided to take over the Democratic Party. It might be a bit more difficult, because you know, Democrats are not nearly as inclined as Republicans to be hypocritical lying assholes.
Get religion out of politics all together...this is how the Founders wanted it.
A public policy has to be based on practicality and most importantly FACTS.
If there is a Highest Truth it is there for everyone regardless of race, gender or creed. If I can't pray to God unless it is in Jesus name, then there is something wrong with that practice.
The rest of the social dictates beyond the Golden rule and caring for those in need are part of a control system of religion that has nothing to do with Spirit.
So, I am certain that I would make a lousy Christian and I am not losing any sleep over it. If being a Christian means proselytizing and running other peoples lives, manipulating politics away from the service of All citizens, then count me out. I have seen too much of this for too long to ever want to support it with my own soul.
Christianity is divisive and contentous and arrogant and unforgiving regardless of what Jesus may or may not have said. To theocracy of all stripes I say "No thanks."
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" - to that I would add "and the bodies of the victims of religious doctrines".
All religions, when distilled to their essence are fundamentalist and exclusionay, hiding behind a pointed finger of condemnation. That is just not for me, I reject it.
It is easy enough to be empathetic, sensitive, caring, considerate, kind, tolerant, generous, positive, spiritual, respectful and loving to all beings without doing it in the name of a religion.
In my observation one's spiritual power in life comes from the Divine Attributes that one can reflect in actual conduct each day as life happens. Deeds not words. One should try to bring justice to the world at large in every action and to bring mercy in one's personal dealings where it will change a soul.
Organized religion itself seems to often get in the way of this very simple rule of raising the effectiveness of the process of life for everyone.
If it does, you are better off with no religion whatsoever.
Look at the sorry, sorry situation in the Middle East. I would conclude that no one knows anything about the Laws of the Divine there at all. Period. Including our nation that sent young men and women to their deaths in nothing thought out at all.
If you want to try to fathom something about the Divine study the laws of quantum physics and how electrons work.
The Divine birthing power of the Universe will teach you everything you need yo know. Here are some equations people can start to write in red letters too.
http://www.ams.org/notices/200303/rev-faris.pdf
I personally have always thought Jesus was a Great teacher. But His followers have been one of the great tragedies in World History. And still are.
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