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Tony Sachs

Posted January 13, 2009 | 11:05 AM (EST)

Why Mark McGwire Won't Get Into The Hall Of Fame: It's More Than Just Steroids


It's being said that Mark McGwire's failure to be inducted into the Baseball Hall Of Fame on his third go-round is a direct result of the widespread suspicion that he used steroids when he was breaking records and bashing the cover off the ball in the 1990s. Which may lead you to think that the road to Cooperstown will be rocky when other notable juicers come up for induction over the next few years. But McGwire is a lousy litmus test for the entire steroid era, because his numbers simply aren't Hall-worthy, illegal substances or no.

Yes, McGwire's career total of 583 home runs is extremely impressive. His career on-base percentage of .394 and slugging percentage of .588 are staggering. There's no doubt that for about five years in the '90s, he not was not only one of the great power hitters of all time, but one of the dominant figures in American popular culture. And when he was at his peak, he certainly made baseball a more exciting game to watch.

But by almost every other measure, McGwire falls short. Way short. There's his anemic .263 lifetime batting average. His measly 1,626 hits. He couldn't run -- 6 career triples and 12 career stolen bases -- and he wasn't a very good fielder. Longevity counts a lot towards HOF credentials, and McGwire lasted 16 seasons, but he played fewer than 100 games in four of them because of injuries.

In a nutshell, McGwire was a one-dimensional player. Granted, it was a hell of a dimension, but does that make him Hall-worthy, assuming you remove steroids from the equation? I don't think so. It'll be much more interesting to see what happens when players like Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro and Roger Clemens -- who can't be denied entrance based on their numbers, but may get shut out for moral reasons -- get their names on the ballots.

Personally, I think it's silly to bar anyone from the Hall based on anything but their stats. Countless gamblers, pill-poppers, cokeheads and other unsavory gents have already gotten their plaques, so why are the voters suddenly getting so uptight?

But baseball writers are nothing if not subjective when it comes to Hall Of Fame voting. How they feel towards players, as human beings, matters more than what those players actually did on the field when it comes to getting into Cooperstown. And McGwire, right up to the day he sort of incriminated himself in front of Congress' steroids hearing in 2005 by tearfully refusing to "talk about the past," was almost universally well-liked and respected.

So who knows? If Big Mac decides to come out of seclusion and starts wining, dining and charming the right baseball journos, we might see those vote totals start creeping up. And if the rosy glow of nostalgia for McGwire's magical 1998 season one day overshadows the scandal that followed, he might be talking about the past at Cooperstown after all. But he still won't deserve to be there.

 
 
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09:53 PM on 01/16/2009
Was Mark McGwire ever Mark Maguire? Did whatever he was or wan't taking affect his spelling?
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02:38 PM on 01/16/2009
His other stats are fairly good for a power slugger. I myself felt my heart sink as I watched McGwire repeat over and over again that he wasn't "here to talk about the past." He must have had no idea how guilty he looked. It might have been Jay Leno, I can't recall, who said it best in a moment of seriousness: I think someone overcoached him on what to say.

I also don't remember hearing HoF voters demand steroid testing in baseball. No one cared about it at the time. Put all of these atsericks into the Hall to remind people not to let it happen again.
12:42 PM on 01/16/2009
This article is just the start to set things so the they can allow Bonds to be voted in later on.
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02:30 AM on 01/16/2009
Steroids make you stronger - if you are an aging power hitter like McGwire or Bonds or Sosa, then using steroids will let you hit home runs when age and time should dictate that you should be reduced to singles and warning track power. It is cheating and it corrupts the stats that are the life's blood of baseball. Mark McGwire doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame because the one stat that he hung his career on - his home run totals - are the result of cheating. Neither does Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa or Roger Clements.

In my view - the single season home run record is still 61 held by Roger Maris and the career home run record is held by Hank Aaron.
02:21 PM on 01/15/2009
You're right, Tony. McGwire doesn't deserve to be in the Hall. He's a very weak player except for the one skill of hitting home runs. And of course that happened in an era when lots of people were hitting tons of home runs. But you're all wrong if you say steroids don't matter. Beating your wife and doing coke and other off the field moral judgments shouldn't come into play. But steroids and gambling directly affect the game itself. That's why they matter. They absolutely should be the focus of the voters. Anyone who used steroids was CHEATING. How hard is that to understand? If you insist you don't mind players who cheat and that's is just part of the game, I'd like to invite you over to play poker -- and I'll bring the deck.
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06:17 PM on 01/18/2009
Ah, but Michael, McGwire was never caught using illegal substances and never admitted doing so. We just assume he did. And neither Bonds, Sosa nor Clemens have ever been caught with the needle in their buttocks, either. We may have a degree of certainty, but no proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Is it the right thing to assume they're guilty until proven innocent?
12:02 PM on 01/15/2009
The most important thing an offense can do in baseball is produce runs. The home run does that efficiently, which mitigates the batting average. A guy in the 90th percentile of his era's players skill should enter the hall of fame, as long as other facts of his career do not threaten the institution of baseball.

Gambling and taking payment to throw games, I say, keeps you out, because these make us doubt that a player or team were trying to win every inning of every game.

Regarding steroids, I take a different point of view regarding their threat to baseball. Frankly, the era was a time where the best became the best because of natural talent, work ethic, and chemistry. We see this Inspector Renault "shock" from the owners regarding the widespread use of performance enhancers, but, really, it just looks like they view it as a bargaining chip and we never saw a dime of reimbursement for the fans' loss of "innocence," or the increased ticket sales when McGwire, Sosa, or Bonds rolled into town.

Chemistry cannot replace natural talent or work and is unhealthy. I revile steroid use in high schools and colleges. At the pro level, though, it was about the elite taking the next step to win. I wonder, given widespread pro use, is the Hall of Fame keeping McGwire out because of steroids or because he was caught?
06:19 PM on 01/15/2009
Except McGwire was never caught with anything except that can of Andro, which he basically let everyone know he was using, and he was still much beloved after that.

What has knocked Mark's HOF bid off the rails was his behavior before Congress. If he never gets issued a notice to appear there he is a first ballot inductee.

It is ironic that Bud Selig prevaricated to Congress about baseball's finances and has paid ZERO price for it while McGwire is now a pariah.

But just so you understand, I would not vote McGwire into the hall in the wake of that committee appearance. I'm just sayin'.
02:01 PM on 01/14/2009
I live in St. Louis. after the strike & a bunch of other stuff baseball was just not doing it for me anymore, especially after the wonderful 80's. McGwire & Sosa battling for the record re-peaked my interest. I think he should get in just for bringing baseball 'back' for a lot of people
01:50 PM on 01/14/2009
All right, let's put the steroid issue aside for a moment and concentrate on numbers.

The Hall of Fame voters started down a slippery slope when they admitted Ralph Kiner, and the slope leads directly to McGwire. If Kiner is a Hall of Famer, how do you keep out McGwire? They were both one-dimensional NL home-run kings of their respective eras. Neither could run, field, steal, or hit for average, and neither was ever league MVP. An exact head-to-head match-up of their numbers is difficult because Mac had about a thousand more ABs than Kiner did, but really, aren't they the same player?

If anything, I give McGwire the edge because he played on three pennant winners and a world champion, while Kiner hardly ever left the cellar. (Generally, all other things being equal, I give the edge in HoF consideration to the player with post-season experience.)

As a lifelong Met fan, I love old Ralph, but his election opened the door for one-dimensional sluggers like McGwire. (You can make the same argument for Kingman: What was Kiner but Dave Kingman with a firmer grip on reality?)
02:14 PM on 01/15/2009
Two wrongs don't make a right. Kiner should never have been put in the Hall. Making one dumb decision doesn't mean they should make a lot more dumb decisions down the road.
01:04 PM on 01/14/2009
Harmon Killebrew had a lifetime BA of .256 and not nearly the OPS of McGwire. Killebrew might have been a somewhat better fielder, but he was a ponderous runner. However, one thing Harmon did do that helped him into the Hall of Fame was be jovial to reporters. Harmon is a really nice guy.

So I assume you will now express outrage that Killebrew was tapped for the HOF?

Look, I don't care for McGwire, either. His performance in front of that congressional committee was such a disgrace that I could never vote him into the hall on ethical grounds. But stop it with saying Mark's career numbers weren't hall worthy. That's just flat false. McGwire's career was also hindered by being somewhat injury prone and he also played in an Oakland Coliseum that was a tough home run hitter's park before it was renovated to accommodate the Raiders. Metropolitan Stadium was much more hitter friendly.
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04:45 PM on 01/14/2009
Robin and 3Finger, I know it's angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin time when discussing the merits or lack thereof concerning HOF inductees or candidates, and that it's all extremely subjective. With that in mind....

I agree with you, 3Finger, Ralph Kiner shouldn't be in the Hall. Or if he should, it's more for his decades of announcing Mets games and (especially) "Kiner's Corner" than for anything he did on the field.

As for Killebrew -- good call. His stats really weren't as great as I thought they were. But to be fair, batting averages were much lower in the '60s than they were in the '90s. And 573 homers was much more rarefied air in 1975 than 583 was in 2001.

I would never "express outrage" over anyone's getting admitted to the HOF, with the possible exception of Dave Kingman.
06:03 PM on 01/14/2009
To Tony: Thanks for a good hot-stove argument starter. To Robin: I'd admit Killer on the grounds that in the decade of the '60s, when pitching dominated in a way it hadn't since the dead-ball era, he hit 393 homers--more than anyone else in the game. That, and all the rbi that go with it, make him Hall-worthy. And, yeah, buying a round for the boys in the press box never hurts.