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Infertility: 16 Things You Should Never Say To A Woman Who Is Childless But Not By Choice

Posted: 04/25/2012 12:49 pm

I don't know if Miss Manners, Martha Stewart or any other blond woman keen on handing out the rules of genteel and polite society has come out with a primer on things best not to say to women who have been pumped full of mind-altering hormones and endured an alphabet soup of invasive procedures (ART, IVFs, ICSI's, IUI's), miscarriages and/or had failed adoptions.

So even though I am only a redhead who occasionally confuses my desert fork with my salad fork, I thought I would take this matter into my own hands and create a guide of what not to say to someone who is infertile, going through infertility treatment or has just had a miscarriage. Perhaps if I do this I and others who are in my position will stop enduring these comments that hurt more than a progesterone shot in the rear.

For those of you who have endured any or all of these statements you might want to print this and pass it out to all your family and friends to stop them from further inappropriateness. And, those who work in a reproductive endocrinologists office, you might want to give copies of this to each patient and have them give it out to their friends and family as they begin treatment. I am only half joking about this. Really, people need to learn what is okay and not okay to women who have extremely high levels of stress and estrogen.

These following statements are just not okay:

1. "You must not really have wanted to have a child or you would have one." Really, is that the problem? Me and Hillary, we just didn't want it enough. Thanks.

2. "You must have some psychological block that is preventing you from getting pregnant." I am guessing that means Jamie and Britney Spears are totally free and clear of psychological issues. Good to know.

3. "If you would just change your beliefs about all of this, you would get pregnant. Have you seen 'The Secret'?" This question always makes me want to ask the well-meaning questioner if they have seen my middle finger. I believed I would get pregnant -- I mean, I believed. I believed so strongly that I had names and furniture and preschools picked out. If I didn't believe, I wouldn't have shelled out $100,000 in my attempt to conceive, and I certainly wouldn't have endured that kind of pain and suffering.

4. "If you would just quit trying you would get pregnant," or, "If you would adopt you would get pregnant." No, this myth is just that: a myth. According to RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association, "Studies reveal that the rate for achieving pregnancy after adopting is the same as for those who do not adopt" -- and the percentage of people who get pregnant after failed infertility treatment is even smaller. I find the notion of adopting in order to get pregnant totally unconscionable. If you want to adopt then you adopt, but you don't do it as a means of getting pregnant.

We haven't been trying to get pregnant for almost four years and not once in all of these years of not trying have we managed to get even a little bit pregnant.

5. "God has another plan for you. God doesn't want you to be pregnant," or, my personal non-favorite, "God wants you to be in service and if you had a child you couldn't do God's will." Please, please, I beg you, unless God has phoned you up or shown up in your living room with choirs of angels, would you please do me a favor and not be a spokes person for any deity on my behalf. Oh, and if God has visited you and given you an inside scoop to my life purpose, I would suggest you find your way to the nearest psychiatric hospital.

6. Another of the God ones that should to go unsaid: "Maybe God knew you wouldn't have made a good parent." Following this logic one would have to infer that all the people who have children are great parents. One trip to Mc Donalds will disprove this absurd theory. "God" gives all manner of incompetent people children. I know many parents that any higher power in its right mind would have never chosen to care for a houseplant let alone a helpless child.

7. "Do you want to throw me a baby shower?" No, I don't. I love you. I love you very much, but I just cannot throw you a shower or even go to your shower. Sometimes the mere act of taking a shower makes me cry. Going to a party to celebrate someone else having a baby is out of the question. Also, I am not going to birthday parties 1-12. Once they are 13 and are driving you to drink, I will happily attend and I will come and celebrate your suffering. I hope you understand.

8. "I am thinking about having an abortion." No, do not tell me this. I am all for choice. Really, I am. I just cannot hear about your choice just now.

9. "Do you want to go to Chucky Cheese, Disneyland, Toys R Us or to the American Doll store with me?" No, no I don't. I want to go to a bar and drink a bottle of Vodka and smoke a carton of cigarettes -- would you care to join me?

10. "I had six kids, and as soon as I had them I realized I didn't want to be a mother." It was 6th child that made you realize this? When talking, it is important to be aware of your audience. This is not something you say to a woman who was not able to have one child.

11. "I have a very small family, I only have four kids." Please be quiet.

12. "You can be a mother to your friends kids." I know people mean well by this. But, to those of you who say such things, let me tell you that babysitting for your kids is not the same thing as being a parent. It just isn't.

13. "Well, why didn't you try and adopt?" I did, and it hurt more than the IVF when the mother decided she had changed her mind and she would instead go on welfare and drop out of school so she could keep her child. I can't do it again. And by the way, even if I managed to adopt, I would still be grieving the loss of not being able to have my husband's child.

14. Here's one I am getting a lot of lately: "Get over it." I am not likely to get over it. This is a wound and emptiness that will be with me forever. Infertility is, as Shelagh Little writes, "like a low-level, lifelong bio-psychosocial syndrome. My physical inability to produce children has emotional and social consequences that I struggle with, at least to some extent, every day."

15. "You are soooooo lucky not to have kids." I can take this one now and then, but on the day after a failed IVF, I could not stand to hear how lucky I was and how horrible kids are. I know it may be true. I know the statistics about how childless couples are happier and have more satisfying marriages -- but we were going to be the couple with the house filled with kids, bikes on the lawn, and a tree house in the yard. We would not be the couple who spends holidays at others' homes -- we were going to have a family, or so I thought.

16. "Don't ever give up. Keep trying. You can't stop now. Maybe just one more IVF and you will get pregnant." This is one that really gets to me. I once asked a friend of mine who has worked with the terminally ill if when people in the late stages of cancer decide they can't bare any more treatment if they are met with this same kind of attitude. She assured me that they aren't. With cancer and other terminal diseases there seems to be a collective understanding that at some point that the compassionate thing to do is give up and die with dignity. The same kind of understanding does not seem to be there for us infertiles. I suppose that it seems to an outsider that there is always something more you can do and that if you "really wanted a baby you would do it." We did IUI, IVF, and ICSI. That is as much as we could do. We could not do egg donor or hire a surrogate or attempt another adoption. There was a time when we could do no more. There was a point when trying to have a baby started to feel like it was killing my spirit, damaging my relationships and draining our finances. However, since there are more things we could have tried, I often get the sense from others that I don't deserve to grieve over our childlessness, that we should keep going, and only when we have exhausted every option do we then deserve to grieve.

Infertility treatment, according to the statistics, is likely to cause anxiety and depression equivalent to that experienced by those with cancer or H.I.V./AIDS. With infertility there is guessing, hoping, and odds that are often different in theory than in practice. Infertility treatment takes a significant toll on your body, relationships and finances -- and it is up to each individual to determine when she can take no more.

My suggestion on what to say when you learn that someone is suffering from infertility is very simple: If you find yourself at a loss what to say or an impulse to say any of the previous things that you shouldn't, just say a heartfelt "I'm sorry" -- that is plenty.

This post originally appeared on La Belette Rouge.

 
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09:27 AM on 06/18/2012
As a woman who has had many of these things said to me, the important thing I always try to remember is they aren't said in a mean way. My friends and acquaintances are trying to be nice and thoughtful, and even though they may not say the right things, I need to remember they are trying. I know that one day, when my turn comes, they will be happy for me and excited, just as they are sad and hopeful for me now.
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Bluesky555
Sometimes, ya just gotta SAY it...
12:55 PM on 05/01/2012
The author said: " My [ physical inability to produce children] has emotional and social consequences that I struggle with, at least to some extent, every day."

Now take out the phrase [ physical inability to produce children ] and insert any of the following:

[ poverty ]
[ obesity ]
[ disability ]
[ mental illness ]
[ color of my skin ]
[ abusive childhood ]
[ rape ]

We all have crosses to bear, and wants that can't be met. Some of us think our crosses and wants override everyone else's, and, as they lament in prison; "... no body knows the trouble I've seen...."
Choose to walk out of that prison. Be Free. Find joy, it's everywhere.
02:44 PM on 05/01/2012
Where is she stating that her feelings are more important then everyoine elses?
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Bluesky555
Sometimes, ya just gotta SAY it...
06:06 PM on 05/01/2012
She implies that when she laments how many "insensitive" people don't understand her particular, specific hardship of not being able to conceive. She implies that when she berates people who react to her hardship in a manner SHE doesn't find suitable, even though their intent was not to hurt, but to offer some sort of comfort, even if awkward or ill stated. But in reality we all have crosses to bear, etc.... as I said. And while we can't know all these hardships fully, unless they are also our own, what good does it do to bemoan that others don't know it fully? When people (you care about and who care about you) offer sympathy, take it. Don't analyze it and degrade it because it wasn't the "PC" thing to say.
01:00 AM on 05/05/2012
Bluesky, I can tell you that I've dealt with each and every "other" issue you just posted, and let me tell you something. Infertility is much worse than any of those other issues. It's heartbreaking every single day. If you've never dealt with it personally, you have no room to talk about it.
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Bluesky555
Sometimes, ya just gotta SAY it...
12:41 PM on 05/05/2012
I'm sorry you feel that way -- about me having no room to talk, especially since you don't know how many of those other issues *I've* dealt with -- and sorry that you feel your infertility is an unconquerable, insurmountable daily torment. Please seek therapy to free yourself from that bondage. Seriously, I'm not being snarky. Be free of your pain. It is possible.
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02:44 PM on 04/30/2012
"Thanks for trying to understand. I wish people can understand how devastating this really is. There are underlying medical diagnosis' that cause the infertility and let me tell you it is devastating. The study that it comes from is talking about the grief that is involved, it really is that heavy. I have wished I was not here anymore and that I just would not wake up (no need to panic, nothing meds and therapy could not fix). It is that painful and those thoughts are very common. I wish people believed the study and believed our pain but just like AIDS took years for people to understand and accept, so will infertility. Also, maybe if you really talked to those family members, they will tell you, if they can, how truly sad it is. " This was my response to another comment.

This is the response I got from Issaquah79...

"How funny, I've wished for your absence as well"

That is sad and so disrespectful on so many levels.
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Fran Jaime
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11:54 PM on 04/30/2012
Don't take it to heart! There's good people here but there's also people who get their kicks with that type of comment.
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farmerlady
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03:27 AM on 05/01/2012
It says something not very flattering about your character that days later, you're still publicly begging for sympathy based on a one line comment that you've intentionally misinterpreted.
02:45 PM on 05/01/2012
right because she is an infertile there for she is bad ... how dare she ask for sympothy
01:38 PM on 04/30/2012
I kind of get this. I was abused growing up and have a mental illness today (possibly as a result, but that may have been the case either way) and you wouldn't believe the horribly insensitive things others have said to me.

I've also been that person sticking my foot in my mouth, whether I realized it as I was saying something awful or only afterward. I bet most of those people would feel awful once they realized it, too, if they didn't get defensive instead. But people only get defensive because they feel guilty.

I think what frustrates me isn't so much that people say something insensitive, it's that they presume to think they know how I feel better than I do. Or presume to think they have a solution, as if there is a simple one. They should be listening, not talking.

I don't know why so many people seem to feel the need to dictate others' emotional responses. Is it really so impossible to accept that it's natural to be angry, resentful, depressed, and/or bitter when something bad happens. Can't you just let people be when they have those moments? Just give them a pat on the shoulder and let them deal with what they have to deal with however they have to deal with it?
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Fran Jaime
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12:50 AM on 04/30/2012
My heart truly goes out to you. Grieve as much and as deep as you need to. I wish these insensitive types would wake up one day to find their mouths glued shut!
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farmerlady
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05:07 AM on 04/30/2012
well, what a nice person you must be :D
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Fran Jaime
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04:07 PM on 04/30/2012
Well, as a matter of fact I am. I don't go around passing judgment on others based on a pseudo-socialist-feminist platform.
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Fran Jaime
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04:34 AM on 05/01/2012
Actually, I do. I have been a socialist and a feminist for over 40 years. I have quite frequently seen that when someone is fresh into either or both movements, they tend to go to the extreme, kind of like "Born again Christians". It's ALL scripture! Or in this case doctrine. The truth is that both the Socialist theorists (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg, Clara Zetkin, etc) and the feminist writers have all had a great deal of empathy for others. They didn't go around criticizing people for not conforming to a limited script. They supported their friends and grieved with them. You have a lot to learn from people of this caliber.
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Bethanese
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10:04 PM on 04/29/2012
I am so sorry. It is most definitely unfair that there are people out there who abuse and exploit their children and can just continue to have kids whom they cannot properly care for, but some couples who would be exemplary parents are physically incapable of doing so. It is also unfair that taxpayer dollars go toward women who just keep popping out kids they can't afford and some of said taxpayers can't have kids of their own. Bless you.
09:23 PM on 04/30/2012
I agree completely.
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farmerlady
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03:30 AM on 05/01/2012
Like I said, you people are all big conservatives, and it shows with the misplaced "welfare mothers don't deserve children comments".

You want others to endlessly pity and commisserate with YOU, but the poor shouldn't have children (unless they are putting white babies up for adoption).

"exemplary parents"== I'm rich, or at least upper middle class. I PAY TAXES, I DESERVE children.

Do you know what you sound like?
02:32 PM on 05/01/2012
I think you are misreading her statement. In no way is she stating that All underprivileged women do not deserve to become mothers. Rather having contempt for women who continually abuse the welfare system and continually reproduce to obtain more money and added benefits.. In that case I will have to agree people do not deserve to be parents if they are going to use their children as a meal ticket or a gravy train. That doesn’t make me a conservative to feel that way. If that was the conservative way of thinking then why the huge push for birth control coverage and safe access to abortions (witch I am in favor of by the way ) done on behalf of the Democratic party? They to know that they cannot support all these underprivileged women who ARE abusing the system and continually reproducing to obtain more cash. Women who are doing everything they can to support the children they have that receive a little bit of help from the government are not disrespected or hated or frowned upon in her statement or by the infertility community . I’m a mother of one and receive help when I need it and exercise my right to birth control . I’m a responsible parent who realizes that one child is enough for me right now and that depleting the government of its funds because I feel like abusing the system , is the act of a thoughtless and selfish parent indeed.
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Bethanese
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02:49 PM on 05/24/2012
I am by no means upper middle class and not even all that conservative; moderate if anything. But I EARN my money and want it to go to my child, not someone else's "meal tickets." In fact, I WAITED until I was 31 to even try to get pregnant so that I knew I could take care of my child if something were to happen to my husband. And waiting that long, you'd better believe that I was worried I couldn't have kids. You are WAY off in your interpretation of my statement. Do you know what YOU sound like?
09:41 PM on 04/29/2012
I have lost 2 babies due to early miscarriage. After years of going to and facilitating SHARE meetings(a national miscarriage, early pregnancy loss support group) I can tell you the only thing worth saying is "I am so sorry for your loss. Is there anything I can do for you"? All other responses tend to sound lame and only make the loss seem that much more traumatic for the parents. God does intend for us to loose our children to make us better people, to teach other people lessons, to teach US a lesson or because He needed our baby more than we did. So please remember- the best response to ANY kind of loss is simply- "I am so sorry. Is there anything I can do for you"? Most of the time people just don't know what to say, they are just trying to help.
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06:36 AM on 05/01/2012
I think Wiley that you meant to say that "God does NOT intend for us....." I agree that these all responses that would bring out the worst in me. I actually heard someone say that the earthquake in Haiti happened "to teach us here in America how to be better Christians". Hmmmm, right, a quarter of a million people got buried under concrete to give obese suburban dwellers thousands of miles away a Sunday School lesson.

I was not polite.
09:07 AM on 05/01/2012
thank you for catching my mistake. I did intend to say NOT. People who come up with such crazy ideas are people who have not endured loss of who just plain don't know Our Heavenly Father on a personal level.
09:38 PM on 04/29/2012
I am a product of infertility. No IVF or progesterone drugs. My mother took hormone stuff for her thyroid. It took my parents 6 years to have me.The doctors said it would take another 5 for my brother but about a year and a half later they had him. I'm 24 years old and healthier than most, I know at least 2 other couples who had trouble with infertility for over 5 years. Hang on tight. Don't stop hoping, don't stop believing that you were meant to have kids. I'm sorry that this has happened to you! I hope you'll feel better.
10:52 AM on 05/11/2012
I was diagnosed with PCOS at age 25, had 7 miscarriage before my son was born. Recently diagnosed with Endometriosis on top of the PCOS and had my right tube removed from a cyst the size of a grapefruit. We have been trying to conceive #2 for 4 years now with no luck. I am overweight from the PCOS and have struggled to lose weight for years. I made the mistake of taking the depoprovera injections (only 3 of them) when I was 23 years old. I gained 100 lbs in a little over a year, period went away for 2 years. Once my fert spclst put me on metformin I was able to lose 30 lbs of the 120 I have gained. I will say, that if you are ovulating on your own sometimes just taking a break from the drs will help. Exercise and eat right and try to relieve some stress and it will be so much better for you. I have had so many friends who were told they could not conceive and did, not just once but twice. I will say, I don't let others comments bother me. I know they may not have gone through what I have been through so it may be just as awkward for them so they don't know what to say. I was recently told I could not do IVF because of my BMI. So conceiving naturally is my only hope. We are currently looking into adoption as well.
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09:38 PM on 04/29/2012
What kind of person would say those things?

I can't imagine. Such rudeness, wow, unbelievable.
berrygal66
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09:27 PM on 04/29/2012
Many of these comments were obviously conjured by the writer. However, many I have heard people say. I just don't understand why anyone has to say ANYTHING. If you have to say something, why not say a simple "I hope that everything works out the way that you want it to."
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10:56 PM on 04/29/2012
I can tell you from experience that this author hasn't "conjured" any of them, and she's actually left out some pretty common (and equally boneheaded) ones.
11:41 PM on 04/29/2012
Nothing was "conjured" up by the author. She left out a lot of other statements that I have heard. My personal non-favorite was...Why dont you drink herbal tea? Really! Really! I will suggest that to my reproductive endocrinologist at the Univeristy teaching hosptial.
09:16 PM on 04/29/2012
Nothing worse than not having children to help you out when old age takes over. Good luck when you need help. Make sure you tell the person that tells you the above listed things where to go. Good luck, feel sorry for you!
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Fran Jaime
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01:01 AM on 04/30/2012
And there we have it: Insensitive comment # 17!
06:41 AM on 04/30/2012
get over it, it is what it is. no help equals no help anyway you or anyone else wants to cut it or beat on me about it.
09:09 PM on 04/29/2012
So where's the "What you should say." article
09:39 PM on 04/29/2012
Well, that's just it. There ISN'T a whole lot to say. When people are going through this type of emotional turmoil, the best thing you can say is nothing, or keep it very minimal: I'm sorry you have to go through this; I hope things work out for you. Anything else seems to drive them batty -- understandably so.
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farmerlady
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03:31 AM on 05/01/2012
I agree very much with the last sentence, but not with the last two words.
09:08 PM on 04/29/2012
I was very lucky to be a mom. My daughter was not. We now have 2 beautiful grandchildren thanks to two wonderful young women who knew that there wa something, someone out there that was better for their babies. I know your pain thanks to what my daughter went through. My thoughts are with you and anyone else going through this.
Sweet Grace
it is what it is...
09:06 PM on 04/29/2012
Yes, people say really stupid things. And it's not always in the case of infertility, it can be the death of a loved one or some other circumstance in life. Sometimes it's because they're really stupid or thoughtless but more often it's because they feel your pain, and don't know how to deal with it so they try to say something- anything! in an effort to give you some type of comfort. Many times it comes across as unfeeling or uncaring but that's not the case in most situations. The words "I'm sorry" don't always apply either. Some people may take offense to that terminology asking not to be pitied, or even ask a question like what are you sorry about?
We all have disappointments and failures in one way or another in our lives. Lashing out at people who at least make an attempt to connect with our pain is a form of anger on your part- mostly anger about the situation rather than comments that people make. I can understand your frustration, but try and see the humanness of their response. And I am sorry for your plight because you want children more than anything and are being denied that joy. Please take the time to cultivate the many beautiful things that life has given all of us and move forward so that people don't feel that they have to constantly empathize with the fact that you cannot conceive. I hope I haven't offended anyone. Peace and love.
09:40 PM on 04/29/2012
I really like how your comments reflect the sentiment in your screen name. :) Very well said.
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Fran Jaime
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01:02 AM on 04/30/2012
" Lashing out at people who at least make an attempt to connect with our pain is a form of anger on your part- mostly anger about the situation rather than comments that people make." So when someone says something so insenitive as to be hurtful, you should just take it because, "Hey, they mean well!" Right! You are certainly not sweet or full of Grace.
Sweet Grace
it is what it is...
03:26 PM on 04/30/2012
Fran, the point is that most people who make insensitive comments don't do it to be hurtful. The people who the comments are directed to- i.e. in this case mom w/ fertility issues can sometimes be oversensitive or so full of grief that they process the comments in a negative way when often they are meant to be comforting. Not everyone means well but most people do. If someone says something to be purposefully hurtful, then they deserve the wrath that comes their way- I agree with you on that level.
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Bluesky555
Sometimes, ya just gotta SAY it...
04:03 PM on 04/30/2012
No, the point is to critically assess the INTENT of the person saying "stupid things" or things one views as insensitive. Sometimes people just don't know what to say...but you certainly can't just shrug your shoulders and walk away. THAT would be incredibly rude.
I agree with "Sweet Grace"... To feel such bitterness towards people who more than likely didn't mean any harm, is a reflection of the frustration and anger within oneself. Be compassionate towards others, even if they do hurt you unintentionally. Compassion begets compassion.
08:45 PM on 04/29/2012
About 7 years ago a very, very dear friend of mine lost a child after an excruciatingly painful IVF process. Of the triplets she had, two of them survived; the other baby, riddled with complications, only lasted a month. I tell you, the pain I felt for her and her husband was and still is immeasurable. I literally and physically ached for them. The funeral was one of the most painful life events I'd ever experienced. Later, I put my arms around her, held her tenderly and simply said, "I'm always here if you ever want to talk" and left it at that. I can only imagine what she must be feeling every Mother's Day or the departed one's birthday. As a single man with no children, I am especially clueless as to what women go through in situations like that. But, I did learn from my upbringing what not to say to women who are childless not by choice or who've lost a child.
10:09 PM on 04/29/2012
Polk, that was well said. And you write more beautifully than your profile pic would indicate that you are, which could charitably be described as "Serviceable." LOL!
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farmerlady
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05:12 AM on 04/30/2012
wha............? That was uncalled for.