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The 99 Lost Sheep: 20-Somethings and the Catholic Church

Posted: 02/16/11 07:18 PM ET

"There are so many more ways to be a twenty-something, it used to be get your job, you get married, boom you're done. (Now) Am I back at school, am I working? That's part of the reason it's so splintering: no one knows what their path is, so you feel like no one else is on the path with you. You feel like, where the hell am I going?" That's what Karl Hinze, a SUNY Stony Brook graduate student, told me as I walked through Fordham's Lincoln Center campus. We were both there for the "Lost? Twenty-Somethings and the Church" conference held by The Francis and Ann Curran Center for American Catholic Studies and The Fordham Center on Religion and Culture. Like Karl, I have the same question: where the hell am I going?

Driving up from Durham, NC, to attend this conference, the question mark in the title, "Lost?" struck me as odd. As if it wasn't assumed that I, a 23 year-old graduate student was in fact lost. Rather, the goal was to ask whether we were lost. These generation anxieties make me snicker because they never stop. The Hebrew Bible and even some parts of the New Testament are riddled with the older generation's worries about land inheritance and the continuation of tradition. Plato muses, like any good curmudgeon, that the young people " ... disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?" In a markedly less geezerly turn, the people behind this conference had enough respect to ask us twenty-somethings a question instead of give us a lecture. After twenty years in classroom lecture settings, this was refreshing.

The Times Are Changing

Young people are leaving the Church or -- worse -- becoming ambivalent toward it. I see it everywhere. It's as if I can no longer call myself "Catholic," but say "I grew up Catholic" to avoid the impression that I would ever participate in such silliness. David Campbell, professor at Notre Dame and co-author of American Grace, spoke to this clear drop off in religiosity. "Politics is quickly becoming the reason why young people are leaving religion," he said, "It was especially rapid during the late 80's and early 90's." Campbell compared that time period with the evolution of the Religious Right and the continued rise of religion in politics over the last twenty years. Campbell's was an argument for reclaiming the Church from the crazies, which means pulling religion out of the political sphere. "The church should still be prophetic, but avoid anything that could be seen as partisan politics," Campbell said. The "Catholic" brand is often associated with being anti-woman, anti-gay, and anti-physician assisted suicide. To assert my 21st-century bona fides, I have to insist that I'm not that kind of Catholic. But why?

Those of us who are already self-flagellating, crusade-supporting, meat-free-Fridays Catholics know the answer instinctively. The minute I tell someone I'm Catholic I become the public face of the Catholic Church and must defend against myriad verbal wallopings from my secular friends and Protestant brothers. The hierarchy of the Church sends me, whether they intended to or not, to do the public relations work they have grossly failed to address since the Boston scandal broke. I've had practice, but many people my age haven't had the luxury of sitting in theology classes for six years.

Therein lies the issue, which Fr. Robert Beloin, Yale University's Catholic chaplain, brought up at a later conversation. Young people simply don't have the language to talk about the Church with any kind of theological vigor Fr. Beloin says, "One of the takeaways from today, make the decision not to write off young people as invisible. So much of parish life is CCD, kiddy Catechetics, senior citizens programs, and young adult programs are invisible." I couldn't agree more. It often seems like the Catholic Church kicks us out after college and tells us to come back when we have kids.

The disconnect is all too clear: We are the age group that spends the most time with twenty-somethings, the demographic the church is hurting for in the worst way. Though they need us, we are by and large ignored and ill-prepared to face the slings and arrows of our secular peers. Millennials are expected to apologize for a hierarchy that wants us to be a part of its ancient tradition, but has made no meaningful effort to include us. It's like playing soccer when your coach is on the wrong field, giving orders to other teams while our opposing team sends us to the hospital.

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Fr. James Martin S.J. is the cultural editor at America Magazine and the author of The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything. The conference was held at Fordham University's Lincoln Center campus on Jan 28-29th.
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The Digital Plymouth Rock

The next major disconnect that was brought up at the conference resonated with my generation. Bill McGarvey, a singer-songwriter and former editor of BustedHalo.com, discussed the difference between digital immigrants and digital natives. Digital natives are at home with all the wires, social networks and screens in our lives. It's the pool we swim in. Digital immigrants -- who are generally from older generations -- walk on the Ellis Island that is the Internet. This time, they aren't Americanizing their surnames; they're creating "avatars" to be their online persona. The digital world is Generation Y's world, and the older generations are now crossing the border.

McGarvey discussed how this divide is seen by young people today. "Media and popular culture, with the help of the internet, is transparent, unfiltered, democratic and collaborative,"he said, "The church culture we live in ... is not transparent, [is] deeply filtered, not democratic, and not collaborative, and it's a clear sort of rubbing point between these two cultures." The Church, McGarvey says, has humorously flipped the parable of the good shepherd. He says, "[it's] been turned inside out and the reality is the reverse. The church seems more concerned with the one remaining sheep than the 99 roaming the wild."

This is an important point: it is easy to bash the Church hierarchy. But most of the Bishops and Cardinals don't understand the digital world twenty-somethings live in. Author and education reformer Ken Robinson once said that when families immigrate to a country where a different language is spoken, their children play a key role. The children usually learn the language and customs first, normally through socializing institutions like schools. They're the ones who explain and translate things to their parents. The same holds true today, where young people have to sit down with nuns and priests to explain how the digital world works and how it can be used to reach young people. This rests on the assumption that they are actually willing to listen, which I pray they are. Even while writing this story, a nun thanked me for teaching her how to use doodle.com, a calendar tool, to plan meetings with people who have busy schedules.

But Aren't We All Sinners

What happens when a couple inquires about getting married in the church and both people list the same address? Sexuality and Catholicism generally don't mix well in public. Donna Freitas of Hofstra University and Colleen Carrol Campbell, an author and columnist were the experts on the panel that dealt with this question, and those like it. Both women had done extensive research on sexuality and religion among young people. Freitas pointed out that relationships are changing, that many young people participate in what is called "hook-up" culture. She graciously provided a definition for everyone who doesn't live on a college campus: "Some form of sexual intimacy. Brief, vague, emotionally shut down to try to remain sexually active." These kinds of relationships are widespread because they maintain emotional safety. People my age get to pretend something doesn't affect them when in fact it profoundly does. As it was pointed out on the panel, all kinds of intimacy affect both the man and the woman, regardless of attempt to keep things emotionally distant.

Why are we doing this? Freitas has found that it's "a culture that no student is happy with." Campbell suggested that we need to look back to the divorce rate only a generation ago. "They have a desire for lasting love and a terror," she says, "Divorce has decimated this generation. We need to show people a model of happy couples."

A Suggested Strategy

How do we bridge the gap between boomers and millennials? The answers are complicated. But I have a few suggestions. There need to be more conferences like the one at Fordham. Not only is it refreshing to see a few young theologians in a sea of gray hair, such conferences demand thoughtful consideration about topics that affect both generations in ways that are at once quite different and closely related. Other, more programmatic approaches encourage activities like Theology on Tap. The Church hierarchy's response came up repeatedly during the conference. When are they going to listen? What will they do then?

Ignore the hierarchy for now, they will catch up eventually. Start the work on your own: no one needs a priest's permission to evangelize. Joseph Nuzzi, a pastoral assistant in New York City, says the hierarchy "can be managed, but they are a liability. We have a bad image in the media and the hierarchy isn't helping us right now."

Intergenerational dialogue starts with friendships. How does someone over 40 or 50 form a friendship with a twenty-something? How do they relate? If you see it more as a cultural divide than a generational divide, it's doable. Mutual respect bridges cultural divides. It doesn't have to be hard. I'm looking for mentors, as are millions of my millennial peers. Google can only teach us so much. Boomers have the experience we want to learn from, but they have to be willing to learn from us too. Remember, you are immigrants in our world. But you can teach us of a world that Peter Maurin, the co-founder of The Catholic Worker movement once said, "a philosophy so old, it looks like new." I'm not quite sure we have a chance at roping these twenty-somethings in with the Baltimore Catechism or the Latin Mass, though some are trying. Go back farther in time, to the labor of St. Benedict, the care of St. Francis, and the expression of Gregorian chant.

Twenty-something Patrick Cassidy, from Baltimore, said, "the man sitting in front of us asked us as a generation of twenty-somethings, when you're the generation of the 40's and 60's, are we a new generation that all of sudden are able to understand it." I guess that all depends on the example set by generation of the older generations today. Are they going to continue the 2,400-year old tradition of complaining like Plato, or will they buck the trend? It's going to take the work of both generations, thats tradition.

"The error of youth is to believe that intelligence is a substitute for experience, while the error of age is to believe experience is a substitute for intelligences." - Lyman Bryson

 
"There are so many more ways to be a twenty-something, it used to be get your job, you get married, boom you're done. (Now) Am I back at school, am I working? That's part of the reason it's so splinte...
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Veritas is Pro Life
Follower of Christ, Family Man and Marine
05:00 PM on 04/11/2011
Good article, solid points. The Church needs to engage this generation without giving up its base beliefs. I am glad the current Pope and his predecessor have been moving the Church this way, but it is certainly at a snail's pace. Veritas.
04:44 PM on 03/02/2011
This article is provocative for many reasons. Generally, the Church has always been tasked with the challege relevancy to lived experience. This requires institutional self actualization rather than monolithic adherence to systems, structures and beliefs of, for example, medieval Europe. The Church must constantly examine its contemporay role, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and in light of Scripture and organic tradition. Specifically, a challenge in ministry is to make Church relevant to postadolescents. This can begin by church ministers bracketing preconceptions and labelling those to whom we minister. We have to learn to listen. We must abandon attitudes of certitude, by which we fit experience into our fixed religious interpretive framework and self-assurance, which crams religious ideas into a framework of personal experience. A minister open to others can hear, reflect and lead action that becomes more inclusive of young persons and all of today's "strangers" to the Church.
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MahoneyT
08:07 PM on 03/02/2011
Hey Joew4177,

Thank you for your comment! Very helpful,

Ty
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HardWrknMan
12:28 AM on 02/23/2011
Part I. I gave up on the Catholic Church at 15. It had nothing to do with politics. My departure was the result of common sense observation. I could not reconcile the differences between what I was taught in catechism or the fiery words issued from the pulpit every Sunday, with what I experienced outside the church. I could not make sense of why the nuns who taught catechism made me repeat ad infinitum that "God made me" when my regular school teachers insisted that I sprang from a different manner of human reproduction for which there was ample, demonstrable proof. I could not reconcile on the one hand the teaching of the church that we are supposed to love our enemies, and understand on the other hand the hypocrisy of those priests who would pray that the enemies of their patrons would be slaughtered in forthcoming battles. I could not understand why my casual dress one Sunday caused me to be refused admittance to Mass at a cathedral in Germany when the church had taught me that it was the state of my “soul” that mattered to God, not the state of my clothing. I could not understand how a truly benevolent God could allow so innocent people to suffer birth defects and incurable diseases, and banish sinners to the fires of hell for all of eternity (sinners, we were taught, included all who were not Catholic).
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HardWrknMan
12:28 AM on 02/23/2011
Part II. None of this made any sense to me, and the more educated I became the less sensible religion seemed. By the time I graduated from college I was convinced that those who embraced religion were simply the most frightened in that they had succumbed to the Church’s medieval admonition that they are supposed to forego happiness in this life in exchange for the promise of happiness in the next, and that if they don’t do as God commands, they will spend the whole of their after-lives roasting in hell. I believe the “after life” is the same as the “before life,” i.e., it does not exist. Every Catholic, past and present, knows it’s hard to overcome the guilt that the Catholic Church forces into you when you’re young and impressionable. So I went to church about 15 years ago and I could not believe what I witnessed. Of course I knew there would be no Latin Mass, but what I did not expect to hear were members of the flock getting up and denouncing birth control and abortion. I walked out, haven't been back since, and have no intention of setting foot in any church again, save those I find on the beaches, in the deep forests, and on the mountain tops where my spirit takes me. Pray for me.
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MahoneyT
01:32 AM on 02/23/2011
Hey Ner2,

Thank you for sharing!

As someone who grew up in Alaska, I also tend to find God more out in the forest and on the mountain tops than in the Church.

Sending prayer your way,

Ty
05:50 PM on 02/23/2011
So true
08:49 PM on 02/22/2011
Atheism is not a conscious act of turning away from all gods. It is simply the final destination for those who think. You will be pleased to discover that the sky does not fall down on your head. If you still want to pray, you can; the success rate of your prayers is unlikely to change. (Guy P. Harrison)
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MahoneyT
01:37 AM on 02/23/2011
I think everyday, in fact as a graduate student I do some pretty rigorous philosophical analysis, yet I find myself becoming more Catholic. In fact, I'm a free thinker myself, nothing limits my thought, its a quite rational and sound mind-depending on the level of caffeine of course.

If I pray to become an atheist, and I do, does that prove us both wrong?
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Larkinvos
02:51 AM on 02/22/2011
"Lost?" I don't think so. More like, "Waking Up! Twenty-Somethings and the church."
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MahoneyT
01:39 AM on 02/23/2011
By what do you mean? There are two kinds of lost I'm getting at in this article, one is that notion that the Catholic Church/religious people wants to label us as "lost" and the other has little to do with religion, that we, as a generation, are just kind of directionless in general.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
11:40 PM on 02/21/2011
In my considered and former catholic opinion, it is those who stay in the church who are lost. I only hope that we outnumber these poor souls by 99 to 1.
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MahoneyT
01:44 AM on 02/23/2011
How are we poor souls if we are in the Church? I think one of the conditions for being a "poor soul" would be to have a soul in the first place, leading me confused.
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09:30 PM on 02/21/2011
All the good intentions and personal stories, no matter how inspiring they are, stop the church and its institutions from continuing to fund and influence policies globally that perpetuate oppression.
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MahoneyT
01:47 AM on 02/23/2011
Ok, like which policies? And should we stop supporting the American government too, they do provide medicare? But their oppression of other people, including Catholics, through the continued funding of the School for the Americas, makes the Catholic Church look like an amusement park.
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Stokes
11:22 PM on 02/20/2011
We need to put on the whole armor of God for the sake of Christ crucified. To restore only what is Truth, that is the Holy Spirit of the living God within His creatures as we await the return of our Redeemer. Man's ego burns feverishly He seems to always mix his philosophy and rationalization with God's word. Teachers must rely completely on His Holy Spirit to bring the Truth to God's children, so that the order of the Heavenly Father's design can fall into place.To adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ is all the wisdom needed in this world. It is given to the open minded who are meek and humble of heart. God is raising up an army to bring back the New Testament Church.
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MahoneyT
12:33 AM on 02/21/2011
Lord, I hope a religion based on non-violence doesn't use an army at all. I hope you mean army as in a group of people.
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Stokes
06:55 AM on 02/21/2011
It can only be non-violent, compassionate, non-judgemental,forgiving and most of all, filled with His Love. . Continue in your pursuit of Truth and may the armies of His Angels watch over you.
01:23 AM on 02/22/2011
There is an army and it is the Army of Goodwill. It is made up people of faith and no faith who are moved to help their fellow humans and the planet. Not by conversion but by helping lifting the weight off their fellow traveler's shoulders.

"My Army of Light is on the march and soon the great battle will have begun. My people are preparing My way and will show you My Plan. My Masters of Wisdom are now assembling Their various groups and soon the world will know that I am here. My Army has laid its plans and soon will follow results. Already the signs of change are appearing, the clouds are lifting, and a new hope seizes mankind.
Will you be among those who pave the way? Will you take part now in this Great Work and fulfil the world’s need? There is no higher call than that to serve the world. There is no greater commitment than to serve your brother."
- Messages from Maitreya the Christ
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
03:17 PM on 02/20/2011
I loved this article!

And, I love these courageous, emotionally intelligent twenty-somethings!

I am an older boomer, and I have profound respect for the change, through courage, that is exemplified by young folks.

Egypt, Facebook!

Wow!
Hats off to you!
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MahoneyT
12:35 AM on 02/21/2011
Hey consioushope,

Thank you for the props! I too like your enthusiasm for a younger generation that I will think will end up surprising a lot of people.

Feel free to find me on facebook if you want to chat further,

Tyler
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
08:18 AM on 02/21/2011
Thanks for your response, Tyler!

You could be my grandson....actually, I would be so happy and proud if you were!!

As I said above, I have the utmost respect for you and for your generation. You actually think more like I do. Although the "church" (all denominations) as an institution has done good in many ways, it also oppresses in its stodginess. After all, any institution has as its first job to maintain itself!

Just this week, and partly through your column, I became more fully aware how your generation may be "the great generation" of change for good.

Peaceful power and bountiful blessings to you and those like you! I am impressed!
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Hysterian68
bureaucrat/historian/ranter
08:31 AM on 02/20/2011
We're seeing the last stages of the 16th century reformatio­n. The edifice is shedding it's skin. The traditiona­lists want a Church similar to what they knew in their childhood. A church for simpletons and others who won't or can't think for themselves­.

The total irrelevanc­y of it all comes shining through as we see priests, popes, and prelates scurrying to enchant the TV world with their empty liturgical burlesque and jeweled party hats. Fortunatel­y, Christiani­ty doesn't depend--ri­se or fall-- on these jesters and their ludicrous and vainglorio­us pomp and circumstan­ce. The core Christian values continue to be practiced by the few left who are true Christians­.
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MahoneyT
02:31 PM on 02/20/2011
Boy of golly gee, I sure hope I'm a true Christian.
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Hysterian68
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05:01 PM on 02/19/2011
Plato muses, like any good curmudgeon, that the young people " ... disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?
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Plato's description more aptly describes the priests and hierarchy of the RCChurch today.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
03:18 PM on 02/20/2011
Agreed!

fanned!
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
01:10 AM on 02/19/2011
The 20 somethings are rejecting the empty forms that the Vatican is too prone to worship. Good for them. My better nature recognizes that I should hope that the Vatican grows up, but as a former Catholic, I would rather see it in dust.
Yeah, I am still working on the forgiveness thing. And I recognize that many of the actual Catholic people are simply wonderful, as people. It still doesn't change the fact that the Vatican has wandered very far from Jesus and His teachings.
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bureaucrat/historian/ranter
05:08 PM on 02/19/2011
We're seeing the last stages of the 16th century reformation. The edifice is shedding it's skin. The traditionalists want a Church similar to what they knew in their childhood. A church for simpletons and others who won't or can't think for themselves.

The total irrelevancy of it all comes shining through as we see priests, popes, and prelates scurrying to enchant the TV world with their empty liturgical burlesque and jeweled party hats. Fortunately, Christianity doesn't depend--rise or fall-- on these jesters and their ludicrous and vainglorious pomp and circumstance. The core Christian values continue to be practiced by the few left who are true Christians.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
03:20 PM on 02/20/2011
With you on that!

fanned!
10:23 PM on 02/18/2011
I truly enjoyed this article. Many years ago, I returned to my faith and I've been extremely grateful ever since. It's been a journey of questioning, using logic and reason that enabled my return. And it came after much reflection from all sources (secular and faithful). In the end, I understand everything beautiful that the CHURCH IS FOR ... as compared to what many seem to want to focus on and that's "what it's against." When you question and read the multitude of literature out there to understand what's it's for, you understand THE WHY of what the Church is teaching. One thing that speaks volumes is that many younger Catholics and even those in my generation don't have enough Catechesis. How many open the Catechism to understand? And how many don't even think of doing so? Often I hear about the "scandal" as reason to change or walk from the Faith. Yet the scandal did not emerge from fidelity to the Church teachings, hence why many devouts were unhappy; after all, we do expect what should be expected from such a holy calling. And when you practice your Faith and meet others who do, you also meet the many, many clergy and faithful who truly live the faith and are happy, at peace, hopeful, etc. They are a greater number than anything I generally read out there! I returned in my late 20s ... and have been great since!
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MahoneyT
10:38 AM on 02/19/2011
Hey M O Neill, thank you for sharing!
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mrsL
marriage & motherhood with mirth and grace
04:45 PM on 02/19/2011
From a fellow-post Vatican II Catholic revert probably of your vintage - Fanned!
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Stokes
04:44 PM on 02/18/2011
I graduated from High School 64 years ago. That is the extent of my education. As a Catholic I was taught to fear many things. Even at the age of nine, I thought I would go to Hell because I took a sip of water before receiving communion on Easter Sunday. It's fears of all sorts that Catholic children grow up with.I can't recall ever being taught about the pure Love of our Heavenly Father for all of His children. I have accepted His pure Love and as a result , with no education to speak of, I, through His Holy Spirit am putting things on paper that are far, far beyond my comprehension. Even though I do not fully understand, I know that I must share His Presence with His Children. The Hierarchy is rapidly crumbling, but the faithful will survive and be in pursuit of the works of the Holy Spirit. God is Love.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
03:25 PM on 02/20/2011
Beautiful, Stokes!

Your touching post brought tears to my eyes!
You are a wonderful authentic human being, who understands and demonstrates a God of love!

fanned and faved!
08:57 PM on 02/22/2011
Doesn't it seem odd that the "evidence for the existence of god" is completely hidden from the greatest human minds who spend their professional lives exploring how the universe functions, yet it is perfectly clear to uneducated simpletons who have access to internet-linked terminals?
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Stokes
05:57 AM on 02/23/2011
Peace.
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Stokes
06:30 AM on 02/23/2011
Doesn't it also seem odd that the woman at the well whom Jesus spoke to clearly understood Him, yet Nicodemus, who had an education had a difficult time comprehending what He said God truly does work in mysterious ways. Peace..