May 17, 2008
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presto
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Massive Blowback To NARAL's Obama Endorsement
Now there's a helpful remark. Anybody else want to step up for party unity? posted 05/15/2008 at 16:58:22
Hillary Chokes Up While Discussing Chelsea On CNN
Nicely summarized litany of name-calling. posted 05/14/2008 at 17:49:24
Why are you so desperate to have her quit? It's almost over. What is the problem with everyone? The choking up was obviously not phony. Why is it so important for everyone to believe that it is? Surely you don't think that will make a difference in the election. That is nonsense. posted 05/14/2008 at 17:48:45
I seriously hope you are not a Democrat. posted 05/14/2008 at 17:45:01
Keep reading. The vitriol and ad hominem sludge is live and well. posted 05/14/2008 at 17:44:22
Are you nuts? posted 05/14/2008 at 17:42:58
Clinton's Appalachia Success
That is the kind of irresponsible comment that keeps this race issue going ahead full speed. I have no idea where you got your figures but every exit poll I saw said that about 20 percent of white voters said race was a factor in their decision. Making up a number and then basing a rant on it does not help. posted 05/14/2008 at 14:29:06
No, it is not. It is synonymous with poverty though and that is what Obama is not addressing. Treating this as a racist issue is missing the point. As with most political contests, this one is coming down to economics. Clinton is much better at talking to everyday people with serious financial struggles than Obama is. He is seen as aloof and remote. His speeches are inspiring but too lofty and too futuristic to appeal to people who are suffering today. The mob has now congealed itself into this blob fixated on perceived racial divisons and is rolling off track more and more every day. It is poisoning the dialog. And disparaging entire blocs of voters in such an unfair and condescending way is picking off voters at the fringes every day. Taking the racism junk off the table and putting economics front and center would turn everything around for - Obama would find the support he needs easily. Racism exists here and there and always will. It does not, however, even begin to explain this situation. posted 05/14/2008 at 13:27:27
Hillary Agonistes: Why Doesn't She Concede?
It is not a "scorched earth policy". It is a primary and, in fact, one of the least harmful ones in modern history. It has done far more good than harm. Your hysteria and doomsville predictions are ridiculous. posted 05/14/2008 at 17:40:42
Well...there's a tired old theory from the radical right. That is as ridiculous as the Rev. Wright stuff they write constantly about now. Are you accepting both or just the anti-Hillary material? Your timing, facts, and conclusions are all incorrect. Not to mention the fact that amateur psychology is not usually a valid political weapon. Except now, of course. posted 05/14/2008 at 17:38:16
Except of course for the 17 million who voted for her. How do you arrive at statistics like that?
The rest of your post is bigoted nonsense. posted 05/14/2008 at 13:08:23
The rest of your post is bigoted nonsense. posted 05/14/2008 at 13:08:23
I see you are able to make rational, sensible judgments based on a thoughtful examination of the issues. posted 05/14/2008 at 13:06:35
This is utterly absurd. The primaries will be over in three weeks. It would be really helpful if everyone could put a lid on their hyperventilating, hyperbolic hysteria until then. The only thing hurting the Democrats now is the din from the frightened screechers. It's been a fascinating, fun, engrossing and historic primary season. New Democrats are popping up like dandelions. Enjoy the show. posted 05/14/2008 at 12:42:36
Is Clinton Looking For An "I Told You So" Moment?
For God's sake. That's ridiculous. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:44:19
Obama In Kentucky And West Virginia: Why Will He Lose?
That's not a hard question. It's purely economics. Bush was very pro-coal. And very anti-clean-coal plants. Can you imagine Al Gore in 2000 being anti-environment? Or Kerry? And Kerry was viewed as just as much of an elitist as Obama. Since McCain is much more environmentally aware than Bush, the line may be blurred this time. posted 05/12/2008 at 12:19:06
Cynthia Nixon: I'd Marry My Girlfriend
Are you a man or a woman? posted 05/12/2008 at 23:28:33
Straight men are far more of a threat to women than gay men. posted 05/12/2008 at 23:26:57
Doing what? Being gay? posted 05/12/2008 at 23:25:13
David Shuster Labors To Trump Up A Clinton Gaffe
Who's Frank? posted 05/07/2008 at 01:38:34
Study: Obama-Backed Illinois Gas Tax Holiday Actually Worked
Jeeze Louise - you're copying the the whole report. McDaddy you need to give this up. I can't afford any more time trying to explain it to you. posted 05/06/2008 at 23:31:59
Daddy - the audience does not need an explanation. You do. When you take a non-static number, like the price of gas, and deduct a static number, like a sales tax, you obviously wind up with another non-static number. The 3% price drop represents the statistical average price increase after wholesale variations and individual retail prices across the state are taken into account. With all of your economic degrees, you can certainly agree that non-static variables are not determined with high school algebra. That's goofy. posted 05/06/2008 at 23:27:38
You mean in undergraduate school? About the same. My point was that your premise was wrong, your figures were wrong, and your conclusion was wrong. Right? posted 05/06/2008 at 22:01:48
Actually, it does. But it seems really counterproductive to hurl mindless insults at other Democrats. posted 05/06/2008 at 21:55:07
Don't think so. He was referring to Hillary supporters. Not helpful. posted 05/06/2008 at 21:52:54
Obama said in no uncertain terms that the plan he supported was a failure. Turns out, it was not. It worked as it was designed to. That was the only point of this story. It was not about the pros and cons of the plan itself. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:20:30
She's a little busy this week - look for it by the end of the month. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:18:23
The study was published in 2006. It goes by the date it came out. Not the date you looked at it. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:16:13
If you read the whole 54 page report then it is very baffling as to why you got it so wrong. The 5% tax was eliminated. Prices then went down 3% - not up 3%. After the sales tax was reinstated, the price went up 4%. It was kind of you to reach out to the math challenged but probably not your best move. You just got it wrong. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:15:03
If you read the whole 54 page report then it is very baffling as to why you got it so wrong. The 5% tax was eliminated. Prices then went down 3% - not up 3%. After the sales tax was reinstated, the price went up 4%. As you note, it is not complicated math. You just got it wrong. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:12:59
It is based on a study done in 2006 which had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign. You are asking a lot of questions, all of which could be answered by looking at the study, which of course does not purport to be journalism. It has nothing to do with journalism. That makes no sense. Look at the study before you get all agitated. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:06:49
Hope you're not trying to convince those morons to vote for Obama. You might have a little trouble with your people skills. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:58:55
No, that was not the point of the story. The point of the story was to negate Obama's claim that the gas tax he supported failed. It did not fail. That was the point. The rest is another story. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:57:16
Nigerian Rebels Mull Over Truce Appeal From Obama
Where did you get that nonsense? posted 05/06/2008 at 18:00:22
Absolutely, posted 05/06/2008 at 17:59:02
Pretty weak metaphor but, yes - it sounds like every politician everywhere. My problem with your comments was the general nastiness, not the fact that you would pray to a god you don't believe in to get what you want. From the eating of small babies unpleasantness to your making fun of Clinton's clothes, you kind of removed yourself from the possibility of engaging in a reasonable discussion. The ad hominem attacks on Huffpo drive me crazy. It is the most primitive form of argument.
But I appreciate your response anyhow. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:58:27
But I appreciate your response anyhow. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:58:27
I don't hate Obama at all. Why do you keep saying things like that to me? I will certainly vote for him if he is the nominee, which he most likely will be.
My problem with this Nigeria situation was that everyone here instantly moved like a giant blob to sanctify whatever it was that Obama did even though they had no idea what he did or what they were talking about. The only thing they saw was one short Reuters clip with no collaborative evidence whatsoever.
The MEND organization is nothing more than a bunch of violent thugs and just taking what they say as gospel is foolish. They are certainly not above being manipulative, which it appears may have actually been the case. Obama lost no traction whatsoever by calling for a ceasefire today - nothing could be more of a no-brainer than that. While I am sure you would disagree, it strikes some as easy and opportunistic. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:35:39
My problem with this Nigeria situation was that everyone here instantly moved like a giant blob to sanctify whatever it was that Obama did even though they had no idea what he did or what they were talking about. The only thing they saw was one short Reuters clip with no collaborative evidence whatsoever.
The MEND organization is nothing more than a bunch of violent thugs and just taking what they say as gospel is foolish. They are certainly not above being manipulative, which it appears may have actually been the case. Obama lost no traction whatsoever by calling for a ceasefire today - nothing could be more of a no-brainer than that. While I am sure you would disagree, it strikes some as easy and opportunistic. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:35:39
He had nothing to do with it. posted 05/06/2008 at 16:50:44
Hoax. posted 05/06/2008 at 16:49:39
The only fault I find with it is that his campaign says he had nothing to do with it. Until today, of course. Now he's all for it. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:54:11
Because he didn't do it. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:52:29
I don't think God listens to pandering. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:51:49
pagan - I am not even remotely bitter. He was getting great press for something he did not do. When he saw what great press it was, he decided to go ahead and do it. I call that jumping on the bandwagon. You call it living up to his global responsibilty. We can disagree without you attacking me. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:48:30
From Politico:
But an Obama aide said this morning that Obama had not made such a call before today.
"Senator Obama has not commented recently on the situation in the Niger Delta region," said the aide, who spoke on the condition he not be named.
Susan Rice,a senior foreign policy advisor to Obama, also this morning released a statement calling for peace in the Detla.
"Senator Obama does urge an end to the violence in the Delta region and encourages all parties to establish a process for addressing the relevant issues and grievances in order to create the conditions for peace and economic development," she said. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:45:23
But an Obama aide said this morning that Obama had not made such a call before today.
"Senator Obama has not commented recently on the situation in the Niger Delta region," said the aide, who spoke on the condition he not be named.
Susan Rice,a senior foreign policy advisor to Obama, also this morning released a statement calling for peace in the Detla.
"Senator Obama does urge an end to the violence in the Delta region and encourages all parties to establish a process for addressing the relevant issues and grievances in order to create the conditions for peace and economic development," she said. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:45:23
It isn't being reported because it didn't happen. Obama's campaign said he had nothing to do with it. Until today, of course. Now he is calling for a ceasefire. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:44:39
Hoax. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:43:20
Before everybody swoons, the Obama campaign says he had nothing to do with this. But he is, of course, jumping on the bandwagon now that he has everyone's attention and is today calling for a ceasefire. posted 05/06/2008 at 10:47:31
Paul Krugman: Obama Ad Distorts My Column, He Should Retract It
What was that spasm all about? posted 05/06/2008 at 01:59:36
What was distorted in this story? posted 05/06/2008 at 01:59:00
Open Letter to Michael Moore
Bubba - he was talking about Michael Moore, not Obama. posted 05/05/2008 at 21:46:13
Are you guys talking about the time Wright was one of a hundred or so clergymen invited to the White House? And you are comparing that to Obama's relationship with him? Seriously? posted 05/05/2008 at 21:39:31
Clintons Tagteam North Carolina Undecideds; Little Sign Of Obama
He's getting lots of help. He's had a lot of endorsements and they all stump for him here and there. Ted Kennedy's wife is doing phone calls in Indiana today. Michelle is all over the place. Bill just hits the news a lot because he is fun to watch. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:58:04
Actually, I have heard those phrases and they don't mean anything. Not "beyond my ken" at all. Campaign-related events are never, ever off-the-record. If she were going to get fired, it would have to be by Huffpo and that won't happen. They loved the notoriety.
Civil court is held to consider lawsuits or legal remedies for disputes so I suppose Obama could file suit in that way, if he could come up with any grounds whatsoever. But not for a criminal offense.
Fowler has said many times, in many interviews, that she is an Obama supporter. You can choose not to believe that if you wish but that does not make me wrong.
Don't know why you're bringing up Scaife. I said nothing about him. Again, that is just something you believe and I don't know why you would drag me into it. I haven't been naive since Hector was a pup. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:50:50
Civil court is held to consider lawsuits or legal remedies for disputes so I suppose Obama could file suit in that way, if he could come up with any grounds whatsoever. But not for a criminal offense.
Fowler has said many times, in many interviews, that she is an Obama supporter. You can choose not to believe that if you wish but that does not make me wrong.
Don't know why you're bringing up Scaife. I said nothing about him. Again, that is just something you believe and I don't know why you would drag me into it. I haven't been naive since Hector was a pup. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:50:50
Yes, you're right - I'm defending her right to say what she thinks. Not sure what point you are trying to make. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:28:19
Thanks, little buddy. Glad you cleared that up. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:25:46
Nothing was done about the moveon.org story because it was a non-story. It was true. Lots of people feel the same way. Hillary makes no secret of it. She is not naive - she would not say anything she did not want repeated. Why would Fox, or anyone else care? posted 05/05/2008 at 22:23:57
Clinton has been all over Indiana. More than any other candidate in history. If the article focused on Obama, it would not be inane - it would be insightful. It would not be navel-gazing - it would be profound. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:20:00
De nada. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:15:56
Everyone who voted helped the popular vote. And there will probably be a lot of crossover Republican votes in November no matter who the nominee is. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:14:35
Her credibility seems pretty good to me. Still don't know what you are talking about. posted 05/05/2008 at 22:12:46
So the recording told the truth. Quick, kill the messenger! posted 05/05/2008 at 16:31:38
Prove her wrong how? It was campaign commentary. She was not predicting anything. What's to prove? posted 05/05/2008 at 16:28:11
Good idea - then the rest of us won't have to slog through all this nonsense to find sensible dialogue. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:26:29
The taping was neither illegal nor unethical. Nor is it a crime. And if it were, it would obviously not be tried in a civil court.
Obama is most likely the nominee, which will most likely please Fowler because she supports him. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:24:46
Obama is most likely the nominee, which will most likely please Fowler because she supports him. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:24:46
I don't think anyone, especially Obama, would back up your calls for censorship. The First Amendment got us this far and Huffpo is hardly going to listen to any nonsense like that. And, it seems that deliberately keeping yourself ignorant about the content you are vilifying is really, really incomprehensible.
Ms. Fowler is not a pathological liar. And she supports Obama. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:21:22
Ms. Fowler is not a pathological liar. And she supports Obama. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:21:22
Read profile and her articles. And then decide. There is no need for all this speculation. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:17:30
The explanation is simple - people are different. Once they pick a candidate, they often become passionate about that candidate. Particularly when they have personally met them. Nothing unusual about that. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:15:22
There is a difference between news reporting and commentary. This is commentary. There is nothing wrong with that. It falls well within the bounds of journalistic ethical margins. I hardly see how "sophism" applies to this story. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:13:06
The best thing to do would be to weigh the evidence and make up your own mind. Her last story on the gas tax seemed pretty pro-Obama to me but maybe you disagree. Or maybe that doesn't count because it does not fall within the parameters of your bias. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:09:29
No, Huffpo pushed to publish that story. They do not cave in to the whims of their bloggers. It was a big story and they jumped at it. Got lots of credit for it too. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:07:35
Except that does not describe the Democratic base. That disconnect is what is causing the problems Obama is having. He can't define it any better than you can. I think he will do better in the next few weeks when all the Wright hoopla dies down and he can concentrate on figuring out who he is trying to address. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:04:56
You guys are so darn smart. It's overwhelming. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:00:45
Her last story about the gas tax seemed pretty positive. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:59:50
Esperia - you seem a little discombobulated. I realize you feel you are overeducated but it doesn't seem quite right to advocate censorship. Even we little people are troubled by that. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:59:13
Your point doesn't seem to have a point. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:52:24
Huh?? posted 05/05/2008 at 15:51:11
No, it was NOT off the record. Obama is a naive politician who should have known better. There was nothing even remotely unethical about it. It is a textbook example of citizen journalism.
As Michael Wolfe of Vanity Fair said:
"It doesn't matter whose employ she was in or what function she was fulfilling. He said something and was duly recorded. [That's] the new reality [it's] useless to ignore. Everybody is going to know what you say. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:49:47
As Michael Wolfe of Vanity Fair said:
"It doesn't matter whose employ she was in or what function she was fulfilling. He said something and was duly recorded. [That's] the new reality [it's] useless to ignore. Everybody is going to know what you say. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:49:47
The reference was to the fact that Clinton won the popular vote. It is also about that. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:37:04
That is what is known amongst us little people as "shooting the messenger". It is not generally considered smart. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:36:08
What are you talking about? This article was not about Jean Weiss. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:34:07
Isn't that what Huffpo is doing? Disagreeing with the writer does not mean the writer is somehow illegitimate. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:19:43
If you just skimmed it, that may explain why you missed the punctuation and thought the author was not taking enough breaths to suit you.
It is fairly clear Texas comment was in reference to the popular vote in Texas. I don't know how that could be misinterpreted. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:16:13
It is fairly clear Texas comment was in reference to the popular vote in Texas. I don't know how that could be misinterpreted. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:16:13
Well, apparently you are not being deleted. I don't think there is any conspiracy going on against you. posted 05/05/2008 at 15:13:50
So now you decide it is up to you to determine someone else's sentence structure? posted 05/05/2008 at 15:01:54
Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option
Is this headline really necessary? posted 05/05/2008 at 14:20:45
Clinton Gas Tax Holiday: Hillary Attacks Economists
Yes, execept she did not say "those who disagree are ______(epithet)." You must have mis-heard. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:12:12
Operation Anti-Chaos: The Narrative on "White Voters" Is Fiction
Huh? posted 05/05/2008 at 22:09:35
I don't like or dislike the polling date. It's a date. The latest Wright problems at the press club appearance, and Obama's response, have had an effect. You may not want to use more current figures but I see no reason to stop the clock after the first incident.
I don't know who mentioned Carville. He is a staunch Clinton supporter. Did I miss something? posted 05/05/2008 at 22:08:49
I don't know who mentioned Carville. He is a staunch Clinton supporter. Did I miss something? posted 05/05/2008 at 22:08:49
It seems to me that this graph would be more relevant if it were more current. Most of Obama's problems at the polls have come after April 2, which is the cutoff date on the graph. I don't think the issue is race anyhow. Obama was hugely popular across the board a few months ago. He has suffered more from being undefined and unknown. He recent troubles have put a spotlight on that which is why some people are having second thoughts. That could still change if he becomes more specific and accessible. posted 05/03/2008 at 23:06:33
Nothing ResidentChimp said was off base and that seemed to be a reasonable response even if you do not agree with it. It is not, however, particularly smart to accuse him/her of being stupid and uneducated. If you are of an age to still be betting your lunch money I'm assuming you have not graduated yet either so it seems an odd point to make. Intelligent people can disagree with one another. posted 05/03/2008 at 22:56:37
Superdelegates Must Tell Color of Change What it Can Do With its Silly Vote for Obama Petition
Please...neither one of the Clintons are racist. That has been one of the most damaging things to come out of this whole process. In time this will all be analyzed in the clear light of day and the hatchet job done on their reputation for lifelong committment to civil rights will be undone. In the meantime, there is an election to win in November and all of this unfounded viciousness is really not helpful. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:24:35
I agree with some of what you say, but I hope you will reconsider your vote. One of the most significant and far-reaching effects of another Republican administration will be a drastic skewing of the Supreme Court. The resulting conservative decisions will have an impact for generations to come. It is an even bigger issue than which candidate is nominated. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:20:18
Thank you, trailrunner. A voice of reason rather than hysteria. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:16:32
How did you manage to get inside Earl's head? And yet still miss the point? Color of Change has no ability to have an impact on the way the superdelgates are expected to do their job. Nor does any other organization. They can petition till the cows come home but it is, and will continue to be, silly. Unless you want to make even more changes to the DNC rules, the superdelegates will vote however they choose to vote. Which I am sure will be with great care and thought. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:13:06
Now how could the nomination be "blatantly taken"? That is nothing more than hair-pulling, foot-stomping hysteria. It gets thrown around the blogs as if there is some malevolent force hiding behind the bushes waiting to steal votes. This is an election process, not a military junta. It would be nice if everybody could just calm down and get ready for November. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:05:21
Not sure what you are trying to say but I sure hope you don't stay home. Voting is your best way to be heard. I don't know of anyone who thinks African Americans don't matter to the Democratic party. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:00:29
Nah... posted 05/07/2008 at 16:56:31
This isn't the Talking Points Thread. Comments should be more or less pertinent. posted 05/07/2008 at 16:44:14
So, I take it you've read the book? I can't quite see how you missed the point like that if you did. And if you didn't, I don't know where your expertise comes from. Do you really think it is okay to insult everyone you disagree with? posted 05/07/2008 at 16:41:22
Good and decent people can disagree without one of them being some kind of monster. There are legions and legions of people who have an entirely different take on what you call "the southern strategy". It is intellectually foolish to take a stand that is so clearly subjective and conjectural and then attack those who disagree. posted 05/07/2008 at 16:38:27
Sometimes bias is subtle. Sometimes bias is class, race, or gender driven. And sometimes bias is just plain giggle-worthy. "Everybody knows you are not an Obama supporter. This is why your work rings false". posted 05/07/2008 at 16:32:03
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