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God's Emotions: Why the Biblical God Is So Human (Part 2)

Posted: 10/ 4/10 04:56 PM ET

What Psychology Can and Can't Say About God

"Prove that God exists," says the skeptic.

"Prove that He doesn't," says the believer.

"The burden of proof is yours," says the skeptic, with a sneer in his voice. "Exceptional claims and all that."

"I can't hear you," says the believer with his fingers in his ears -- and he can't, partly because of the fingers and partly because of the sneer.

"What an idiot," the skeptic mutters to himself.

"What a jerk." mutters the believer. Then they both walk away self-satisfied.

This schoolyard, net-yard argument has been repeating itself for centuries, but there's another, more civilized conversation that also has been going on for centuries: a conversation among scholars. This argument has caused some to leave the faith or, more rarely, to join it. It has driven the evolution and bifurcation of Christian theology. And yet, painfully, I think it has had little more effect in building bridges or resolving our deepest questions than the schoolyard squabbles. The burgeoning field of cognitive science may, finally, offer us a chance to have a totally different conversation about religion.

Many scholars of Christianity deal with big theological and philosophical questions: Based on our best ability to follow logic and detect fallacy, what is possible? If we eliminate self-contradiction and faulty reasoning, what is left of our knowledge of the supernatural? They ask not only, "Does the Christian God exist?" but also, "Can the Christian God exist, and if so, in what form?" These are the questions that apologists and counter-apologists have been wrestling with and arguing over for so many centuries.

Psychology, by contrast, doesn't deal with what is possible; psychology deals in practicalities and probabilities. It asks, "What can we know about how people (and sometimes other animals) function within this natural world?" It neither assumes nor denies the existence of a supernatural realm because the methods of science are not applicable to this question, and the findings of science are agnostic on this question. That said, it does assume that if we have sufficient natural explanations for natural events, then we don't assert supernatural causes as well. If schizophrenia can be explained (and controlled) by the presence or absence of certain neurotransmitters, then we don't bother talking about demons possessing schizophrenics.

This assumption is basic to the study of psychology, but not uniquely so. In fact, except where it threatens religious dogmas, it is considered trivially true. Consider our everyday lives. If I think my car runs on gasoline alone, I don't bother to draw magical runes or pray over it after filling the tank. Gallons of hydrocarbons suffice. If I think that locking my door will keep out thieves, I don't bother with sprinkling protective herbs around and above it. If I think that bullets alone kill enemy soldiers, I don't employ a cadre of voodoo specialists to stick pins in figures before going into battle. When we find natural cause-and-effect relationships that are sufficient for us to explain, control, or predict a phenomenon, then we let it be.

That is why a discussion of psychology -- specifically emotions, and even more specifically God's emotions -- is relevant to assessing biblical Christianity. The nature of God may not be subject to psychological study, but religious beliefs and assertions made by humans are not synonymous with God, if some such entity exists. They are natural phenomena, which means they are open to scrutiny via the methods of the social sciences. The Bible states that we humans are made in the image of God. Presumably, the similarities between our emotions and God's -- love, hate, moral indignation, vindictiveness, pleasure at gifts and praise, yearning for companionship, and so forth -- exist for this reason. But what are emotions, really?

Twenty years ago, the focus in psychology was largely on cognition: on memory, learning, attitudes and reasoning patterns that are accessible to our conscious minds. But as new experimental protocols and imaging technologies have been developed, it has become possible to explore a whole Carlsbad Cavern of subterranean mental processes that operate before and outside our awareness. These technologies hold up a mirror not only to our individual quirks and pathologies, but also to mechanisms of information processing and information distortion (cognitive biases) that characterize our whole species.

As cognitive neuroscience has flourished, another field of study has also flourished: affective science, the study of emotions. Psychology largely ignored affective phenomena for years. Emotions seemed too amorphous, subjective and hard to measure. But now neuroscience can correlate self-reports with actual brain scans, hormone levels and more, and affective science has leaped ahead. The growth of affective neuroscience has given researchers confidence to look at how emotions function at other levels -- in decision making, for example, or religious experience.

As we explore the nature of emotion, a set of interesting questions arises. Considering the nature and functioning of feelings, what would it mean for an omniscient, omnipotent, omni-benevolent being to have emotions?

Christian theologian John Shelby Spong once said, "Christians don't need to be born again. They need to grow up." He was reacting to the fact that many believers never outgrow their childhood concept of God as a kind or mean daddy in the sky, one who needs our admiration, can be cajoled for special favors, and covers or beats our backs when we get ourselves into trouble. We often acquire religious beliefs before adolescence, when we are too young to process abstractions. When children are taught that Jesus loves them, they have no means of defining the word love except through their experience of other humans, especially their parents. As we get older, most people don't stop to reevaluate our childhood concepts. Believers rarely ask themselves, "What does 'Jesus loves me' actually mean?"

As long as our childhood ideas and habits, especially religious ideas and habits, are working for us, we seldom take the time to revisit them. Coming out of an Evangelical childhood, I remember how startled I was when I first realized that Catholics, Latter-Day Saints, and Seventh-Day Adventists were Christians! But they were bad, and Christians were good... I started laughing. My old categories had held sway long after I was capable of knowing better.

Looking at God's emotions through the lens of affective science forces us into our adult minds. It puts us in a position from which our adult selves can get a glimpse of the deeply layered god-concepts that are embedded in us whether we believe or not. Some of those concepts come not from our own childhoods but from the childhood of our species. The Bible writers did the best they could to sift through their received traditions and posit their best hypotheses about what was real and good, in other words, what was God. But living as they did, in the Iron Age, they were constrained by how little they knew about themselves. We may not have made perfect progress since then, but, mercifully, we have made some.

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Further reading:

Darwin, Charles. "Letter 12757 to E. B. Aveling," 13 Oct 1880 (http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/entry-12757).

Spong, John Shelby. Why Christianity Must Change or Die: A Bishop Speaks to Believers in Exile. HarperOne, 1999.

 
 
 

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Trismegistus22
Crescat virtus per certaminem.
09:09 PM on 10/12/2010
I guess you could say I am disappointed.
05:03 PM on 10/14/2010
Well the fact that you are serching for an anwswer in the wrong place might have something to do with that.... Just sayin, maybe you should try reading the Bible. You will find that God most definatly experiences emotions. God wants to know you, He wants to develop a realationship with you, and you obviosly want a realationship as well, otherwise this question would not have crossed your mind. I can tell you that you will be very unpleased with any answers you find until you find the truth which is in the Bible.
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Trismegistus22
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09:07 PM on 10/12/2010
I think it is a reasonable assertion to make that christians in general are not well educated in christianity. Perhaps the same can be said about islam and judaism, I am not as well versed so I cannot opine. By educated I refer to study and teaching that involves biblical criticism, in depth study of theology, explanation of fundamental basics. Churches basically don't go much beyond the high school level of learning. So you have adult men and women who might be professionals but all they have in their religion is a G.E.D., so to speak. Quoting the bible and knowing which verses can be strung together is hardly an educated approach.
Even suggesting that a deity can have emotions is to play into that childhood understanding. I have some understanding of neuroscience and affective psychology. I recognize that the unfolding understanding of how the brain works will challenge religion, perhaps even more than Copernicus and Darwin did. Certainly, the concepts of cognition, consciousness, awareness, intelligence, memory and knowledge not to mention free will are all open for exploration.
But those are all on the human side. In the first two parts of the series, I have yet to see a suggestion of what sort of deity would have emotions. Can a deity even experience emotions? Perhaps the Olympians?
I suggested in a post on section 1, that we would see a discussion of projection and transference.
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girlgoneriled
06:05 AM on 10/12/2010
@Valerie Tarico: "This schoolyard, net-yard argument has been repeating itself for centuries."

Well, OK--maybe for two centuries. Before that, expressing non-belief could get you killed.
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TheAntitheist
Four legs Good
07:53 AM on 10/11/2010
Why does GOD seem so human in scripture? Well it does fit with the idea that he is a human concoction.
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04:26 AM on 10/09/2010
This decline of a nation has much to teach someone that is a sincere seeker and becomes interested in reality discernment; not appearances. Judge not by appearances (i.e. phenomena) was a profound teaching about reality.

Now the believer and the nonbeliever are in the same bolt.

The believer will be unable to see origin and cause of this American decline as a universal principle doing what it does best: Self-destruct those aspects of ignorance that are not in alignment with these universal principles of love and divine intelligence: karma.

The believer has made a God in their image so this imaginary God like them has no problem with 50 million without health insurance, watching another person’s house burn to the ground because they did not pay their 75.00, or continual wars with other religions as the bible is packed about wars between those of chosen people religion status.

Now the nonbeliever is in the same bolt as the believer not being able to see these universal principles in action, as they believe there is no meaning and purpose to life. They are here by accident, gravity created them, and it is socially convenient to be a good person. Natural selection has made most humans good persons.

So as this nation declines to third world status and thanks to these universal principles that communism, socialism and capitalism must self-destruct; this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to become an observer and learn reality discernment. Or not.
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DiogenesOfAlaska
Mitt Romney for president - of the Cayman islands!
04:43 PM on 10/09/2010
If you're really trying to discern phenomena from the underlying reality, then maybe the notion that the history of salvation is somehow closely linked to the USA might need to go over board.

It's ok to be an exceptionalist in the political sense, because that view is grounded in history. But it's an exaggeration to assign a religious meaning to that.
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girlgoneriled
06:01 AM on 10/12/2010
Nonbelievers do not "believe there is no meaning and purpose to life." We do, however, believe that we must create our own meaning and purpose.

I did a double-take at this one: "Gravity created [us]"?

It is very hard not to sneer when confronted by ignorance like this. Please have the courtesy to find out how nonbelievers think before you speak for us. (It's not hard. There have been several best-selling books in the last few years. And Google is your friend. Or you could even, you know, ask somebody).
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04:19 AM on 10/09/2010
love is not an emotion

you can brain scan all you want and you will not find love or intelligence or awareness.

a brain scan confuses cause and effect.

recently I read a book on there is no god and this author mentioned consciousness once and did not even mention awareness.

we have religion that has made a god in their image and we have a materialist that confuses an effect for a cause.

believers or nonbelievers no difference.
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Trismegistus22
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07:58 PM on 10/12/2010
Beg to differ. Love is indeed an emotion. Else, what would you suggest it is?
"For example, the emotion of love is proposed to be the expression of paleocircuits of the mammalian brain (specifically, modules of the cingulate gyrus) which facilitate the care, feeding, and grooming of offspring. Paleocircuits are neural platforms for bodily expression configured before the advent of cortical circuits for speech. They consist of pre-configured pathways or networks of nerve cells in the forebrain, brain stem and spinal cord. "
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Trismegistus22
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08:00 PM on 10/12/2010
What was title of book? How would you differentiate consciousness from awareness? So that our discussion will have common ground.
Specifically which materialist confuses an effect with a cause? and how?
10:00 AM on 10/08/2010
what is this crap???????????? I just don't understand it at all . . . there is too much projection about god and too much influence on asking god or religion to take responsibilty for our actions . . individuals are responsible for their actions . . . I certainly don't want a return to the Middle Ages where everything was decided by the church or a religious group . .that is an affront to human intelligence . . .
08:30 PM on 10/07/2010
First of all you have to want to believe in God. There are just to many unanswered questions that we as Humans want to know, that are not answered the way we want in the Bible. God is not religious He is realational, so until the person asking the question "prove God is real?". Until that person is ready to accept God, the answers given will not suffice. It takes faith to belive in God, just as it takes faith to believe evolution or anything else humans have come up with. I argue that God is real because the Bible is real. So to end, how come the burden of truth falls on the beliver? It's easy to ask a question like that when you have no cards on the table yourself? What do you belive and why do you belive it? I believe in God because humans answers like their beliefs have evolved over time, but Gods word and aswers are never changing, He is constant and He is the answer...
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girlgoneriled
06:14 AM on 10/12/2010
The burden of proof falls on the believer because the believer is the one who is making claims that do not conform to what we know about how the world works. Life after death? Prayer? A god who intercedes in human affairs? Prove it.

Please note that every remarkable thing humans do or have done--eradicating smallpox, going to the moon, creating little machines from which we can access something called the "internet"--was done by hard-headed materialists using the scientific method. Faith didn't get any of those things done.

It does not "take faith" to believe in evolution. What it takes is an understanding of the overwhelming evidence we have for the process.
01:48 PM on 10/12/2010
The belief that there are answers for everything, that humans are capable of understanding is hard for me to fathom. So to answer questions like "prove God exists" to someone who is incapable or unwilling to understand that He just does. This debate in my head will always result in a stalemate. I will not convince the non believer because they refuse to have an open mind to the belief that not every question can be answered by humans. And the non believer will defiantly not convince me that humans know the answer, because if they did they would not constantly change their minds. Do you know that the preferred belief by most non-believing scientist these days is that the big bang explosion happened from nothing. How can something come from nothing is my question to you then? You cannot possibly answer that question without the installment of "something else". And it sure does take faith to believe in evolution being that science cannot even prove itself, you are still believing on evidence and not truth. Read some stuff by Stephen Hawking, i think you will find it most interesting. He states in some of his discoveries that the creation of earth is impossible without the existence of God. But since he chooses not to believe in God he simply states that his equations and explanations he came up with were based on false premises totally disregarding the truth. Ignorance is bliss
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
01:26 PM on 10/07/2010
This debate wouldn't be so important if the workings of society itself weren't at stake. Its not just about scholars disagreeing. Its legislation, its when a 'sin' is turned into a 'crime' with the full power of the state to enforce its edicts. Christine O'Donnell dreams of someday 'outlawing' pre-marital sex. Her inclination - she would say her duty -  to suppress the population with despotic laws hinges entirely around the supposed existance or non-existance of a biblical old Testament God. Nobody's debating the relative merits of Shinto ancestor worship because in that case our liberties are not at stake.
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Trismegistus22
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08:29 PM on 10/12/2010
She also thinks mast**bation should be outlawed, or whatever. If some of these extremists actually carried through on their promises we would have to establish sexpolice. Sort of like Fringe only about bedroom stuff. The lines for those jobs would stretch around the corner with some very strange people.
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Dan Jighter
04:19 AM on 10/06/2010
In that skeptic-believer dialogue at the beginning, please notice that the skeptic is asking questions and making points that the believer doesn't respond to. The believer is the one answering a question with another question and saying "I can't hear you". You remove the part about the skeptic sneering and all you'd be left with is a skeptic trying to hold an adult conversation by asking questions and making points about burden of proof while the believer acts like a child.

Also note that the believer raises a straw man by asking the skeptic to prove there is no god, as skeptics tend to doubt god's existence, not believe there is definitely no god.

Perhaps if the believer would take the time to provide proof that god exists, understand the skeptic's actual position, etc, it would not be a schoolyard fight. In fact, atheists and theists do, surprise surprise, have civil and intelligent conversations along those exact lines.
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DrBlizzardo
08:09 PM on 10/07/2010
Quote: "You remove the part about the skeptic sneering..."

Yes, Dan, but I *always* sneer when I'm discussing "god" with "believers"...dang it, I just can't help myself.
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Trismegistus22
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08:26 PM on 10/12/2010
You know what,Dan, sometimes you make too much sense!!
08:53 PM on 10/05/2010
DISSECTING DEITIES
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Free, reasoning people simple refuse to judge what lacks a preponderance of evidence, as true. Meaning, deities don't exist until there's sufficient evidence suggesting they do. That's how the American judicial system works, on the preponderance of evidence or lack thereof. Judgment can't be inconclusive. When sufficient evidence is available, it would be reasonable to reopen the case.

Even if judgment is rendered true, meaning existence of a deity is granted, I'd psychoanalyze and critically assess whether the deity is worthy of attention, respect or reverence. Most deities have demonstrated passive-aggressive personalities, human emotions, immoral virtues. Why would a perfect being desire worship(a morally corrupt quality)? What pleasure does it derive from demanding the submission(enslavement) of humanity? Etc. Those are questions to ask. Respect isn't a right. It must be earned.

Science answers questions. Religion fabricates answers. Philosophy is Science. Religion doesn't answer philosophical questions. Religion professes a pseudo-philosophy to cloak it's desire to subjugate humanity to it's deity. Religion begins, insists on the assumption that God exists. It doesn't answer the question "Is there a God?" in a truthfully challenging, substantiated manner. Religion sells an unsubstantiated motive to submit to it's deity: For eternal afterlife? Enslavement is immoral. Bait and trap is immoral. Why's there something instead of nothing? Energy. Intelligent Consciousness requires an enabler called 'energy' for it's existence, functions. Energy is the 'Creator' and 'First Mover'. God refuted. Religion unnecessary.
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"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." - Thomas Jefferson
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whirlpool
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07:30 PM on 10/04/2010
Well religion and its invention of god exist for a reason. So far I have not heard a good and comprehensive reason as to why but it is imperative to find out since religion and god have such a profound influence whether we like it or not for both good and ill. I am convinced that psychology, anthropology and mythology can help us get the answers. Neuroscience may get at the electrochemical manifestations of this invention and/ or experience of god but not at the root cause. Something deeper is going on here.
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Mriana
Freethinking mother of two grown sons and two cats
09:55 PM on 10/04/2010
It could be that people are afraid to grow up on some level and want an imaginary father figure. I have to agree with Spong concerning what he said about needing grow up and I also think he is right that the idea of God is a human concept, in part because there are so many different concepts, including that of a father figure.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
10:26 PM on 10/04/2010
I think that is part of it. My experience with my father was certainly like an Old Testament type god. This I think is the experience of many men.
01:11 PM on 10/05/2010
I'm of the opinion that many people require a bit of delusion or fantasy to live life. Personally, I don't need or what it, but I understand the appeal.
01:02 PM on 10/05/2010
I think it important to contemplate the real and imagined horrors early humans labored under. In the absence of knowledge about microbes and other diseases, life, death, and suffering seemed capricious, random, and unpredictable. Building emotional and spiritual bulwarks against this uncaring universe was a natural response and has become hardwired into our brains. That being said, life is still a mystery and those who are not satisfied reveling in that mystery will continue to turn to human imagined answers.
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
01:24 PM on 10/05/2010
Good point.
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DrBlizzardo
08:17 PM on 10/07/2010
Yes, and remember they lived in a world where nobody, NOBODY even knew what stars were (kind of frightening, after all, all those lights up there and no idea what they really are?), or why it rained, of where dreams come from. It's hard to put ourselves in their emotional place, because we have to strip-away all the learning--all the science--from our culture to understand the magnitude of the mystery they must have felt at the world around them.

No wonder they invented gods.

And we can count ourselves fortunate to live in times where such tyrannical, enslaving, worship-addicted gods have been shown to not exist, and explanations for much of what is around us have been discovered; and we can be certain that given time and resources, we will answer the vast majority of our questions with scientific research.

I still stare at the stars in awe, though--intellectually knowing that they are stars does nothing to dampen my wonder at them.