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Vicki Larson

Vicki Larson

Posted: February 28, 2011 11:25 AM

A headline two years ago grabbed my attention and probably a few others': Being Fat Ended My Marriage.

In the Ladies Home Journal article, the author, "Jane," detailed how she put on 40 pounds after childbirth and was never quite able to shed them. Her husband, "Robert," withdrew emotionally and physically and after two years of counseling and a few separations, they divorced.

Of course, after the divorce, Jane lost most of those 40 pounds -- and promptly found a new husband.

That's a rather typical story. A lot of women gain weight when they get married; in fact, they're more at risk for obesity just by shacking up. Men do, too, but they don't gain as much as women do. And researchers have found that after divorce, most go back to their pre-marriage weight. The Divorce Diet isn't pretty, but it works!

So why don't people just lose the darn weight while they're married? I don't know, but some would-be spouses aren't going to leave it up to chance: they've put weight restrictions in their prenups.

Which begs the question -- if your spouse got fat, would you split?

Is weight a valid reason to get divorced?

It's enough to keep British writer Samantha Beck fit. Her French husband, Pascal "knows what I weigh, will comment on the weight I put on (in front of friends and family, too) and will discuss my figure appreciatively (or not). ... Pascal absolutely believes that my becoming a 'fat wife' would be grounds for divorce."

Well, we always knew the French were different.

As a sometime reader of advice columnists, I have often come upon letters -- usually from the husband -- complaining about his wife's weight. He's not attracted to her sexually anymore and he mentions (hopefully delicately) something about her weight to her, which makes her angry and defensive, and so he pulls away emotionally and physically, which makes her feel worse about herself so she eats more and then gains more weight, which turns him off even more ... it's a downward spiral that most likely ends up in divorce anyway.

Most couples fight about money, sex, chores and children, but weight often factors into those issues. And just like a couple needs to be in tune with how they'll raise their children and spend or save their money, they probably need to be like-minded when it comes to diet, health and fitness.

Of course, weight falls under the "for better, for worse, in sickness and in health" statement. But we'd surely say something if our spouse became anorexic or bulimic. Becoming fat is just as dangerous and unhealthy, so why is it such a hot-button issue?

I do have to wonder about how that fat-clause prenup would work, though: Do you wait until she's breaking the scale and slap her with divorce papers? Or do you say something as she starts adding on the pounds, which has its own problems because many women -- obviously not French women -- get really upset when their sweetie calls them on their weight. "I'm still the same person inside. Why is he so shallow? Why can't he love me as I am?"

And, yes -- there are many men out there who get fat, too.

Still, if I were Jane's first hubby, I'd feel a bit pimped; obviously she could lose that weight.

The odd thing is, while their marital problems seemed to start when "Robert" became distant, ultimately they were divorcing about her weight.

Maybe that prenup clause isn't such a bad idea after all.

 
 
 

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A headline two years ago grabbed my attention and probably a few others': Being Fat Ended My Marriage. In the Ladies Home Journal article, the author, "Jane," detailed how she put on 40 pounds after ...
A headline two years ago grabbed my attention and probably a few others': Being Fat Ended My Marriage. In the Ladies Home Journal article, the author, "Jane," detailed how she put on 40 pounds after ...
 
 
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04:45 PM on 03/02/2011
The point is that anyone who puts this in a prenup really is confessing that their love is completely conditional, based on their demands for meeting some visual standard.

It would make me laugh if the woman kept the weight off but lost her teeth or hair or developed early wrinkling.

That would be sweet justice.  *haha
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lowery2008
02:28 PM on 03/02/2011
In the past 2.5 years of marriage my husband and I gained 50 lb each, but I lost 20 lb of that and he didn't should I divorce him? I'm still trying to loss the weight, but he doesn't seem to be too concerned about his. I should just drop him right?
09:54 AM on 03/02/2011
When men get sick, or gain that beer belly and go bald, if he's a good husband most women stay but there was an article posted here at Huffpo a couple of weeks ago discussing why men leave cancer stricken women, so now we can add gaining weight to the list of why men leave women and men wonder why they have to pay so much during a divorce. This is sick stuff no wonder obesity is on the rise as people are taking comfort through food.

More and more women are asking men to donate their sperm and be in the child's life but they don't want to marry, I read that recently I think that was at Huffpo too but I'm not sure (short term memory has been faulty lately I hope it’s not serious). Anyway that seems the way for women to go, I mean dealing with all of the stress produced in many of these marriages would make anyone sick.
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01:21 PM on 03/02/2011
it's very strange to compare gaining weight with developing cancer. a person can control their weight.

what if a wife or husband left his or her spouse after that spouse developed lung cancer after being warned again and again and again, or even after being given an ultimatum by his or her spouse? wouldn't that be more understandable?

but yes. it's lame and cruel for a husband to abandon his wife if she develops a serious illness. however, getting fat isn't the same thing. obesity is directly related to laziness and/or depression.
06:43 PM on 03/02/2011
Laziness and depression are not the same.

Since when is depression not serious? It's so easy to develop a holier than thou attitude with people who are dealing with or in situations that we can't empathize with because we've never been there, or never had to be.

I can't believe all of the comments here that ALL overweight people are so by choice - waking up one day and making a conscious decision to be as miserably fat as possible, because being overweight is some great way to get kicks. No, it's not like cancer - but neither is it necessarily a deliberate choice to be unhappy, or make others unhappy - that ALL of those people are alright with the situation they are in?

Becoming overweight is very often a symptom of greater issues, and I'm sure that most are quite aware when it's become a problem, possibly making depression worse tenfold- a vicious cycle. Very rarely are things as black and white as the majority here would seem to suggest.

Sure, there are people who are just lazy and don't care, but I'd be willing to bet there are a lot more actually struggling with this than are recognized. Not everyone knows how or is equipped to easily work through their problems on their own, whatever the reason. It's frustratin­g to see all problems like this lumped together with so much blame, disrespect­, and disgust. Who are we to dismiss another person's problems when we haven't walked in
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09:32 PM on 03/02/2011
anyone who runs 35-40 miles per week (at a good mph) and refrains from eating refined sugar and refined flour will not be obese, i myself haven't had fast food in almost twenty years. i have one soda every four or five months.

depression is tough. i admit that. i know some people who are genuinely neurochemically challenged. however, most of them are long distance runners (running helps their depression).
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12:28 AM on 03/02/2011
on another note, in manhattan, how much income does a woman want a guy to have? recently,at a posh charity event, a woman at walked away from me (after striking up a conversation with me) once i told her that i rent a STUDIO (for 2k in tribeca (initially, i'd just said "i live in tribeca' (and she got VERY interested at that* )). she just went cold. i dress richer than i am.

(*in tribeca, most apartments rent for 5k or sell for 2-5 million)))

i just moved here.
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Vicki Larson
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02:29 PM on 03/02/2011
avery — NYC is not the "real" world. Trust me; I'm from it! ;-)
But, you wouldn't be interested in a woman like that anyway, right? So, who cares?
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09:24 PM on 03/02/2011
if i were a woman and wanted a child and i had many suitors, i would be tempted to pick a man who could send my child to private school and stuff like that. that's what i mean by marrying for money. i used to be an english professor, so i know plenty of wonderful guys who are itinerant academics who earn about 40k/year. i sort of understand if women are reluctant to marry a man like that.

i want a VERY beautiful woman.
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12:28 AM on 03/02/2011
bear in mind, some guys, like myself, think half (not all, but half) of a relationship is comprised of sex and sexual chemistry. it's what distinguishes love from friendship (or one of the things that does). i keep myself ripped, because it's a form of chivalry. a swain should strive to please and give pleasure to his paramour. i mean that. (unfortunately, women care more about money than about great sex.) so, if i let myself get fat, it would mean (to me) that i no longer cared to give my woman pleasure, which would be grounds for dismissal.

so, if my hypothetical wife got fat (gained 7 pounds. maybe 10), i would perceive it as indifference to my pleasure. i would take it personally, as a statement of indifference, because i place such value on sex within a relationship. in other words, gaining weight wouldn't ve something that just happened, it would be a statement, a gesture of indifference.
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Vicki Larson
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08:51 AM on 03/02/2011
@ avery t —"unfortuna­tely, women care more about money than about great sex"
Hmm, nothing sexist there. ... nor is it even truthful
I know many wonderful fit women who were the family breadwinners who had fantastic sex ... after they divorced.
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11:39 AM on 03/02/2011
right. exactly, after they were divorced.

they married a man who offered them security. they were not made happy by that. they asked for a divorce. once they were divorced and had a settlement that relieved them of worrying about financial security, they got involved out of love and desire.

would you be more inclined to MARRY an unemployed guy with whom you had great sex, or a guy with a great job/career with whom you had mediocre sex? the key word here is "marry".

when i first moved to manhattan, i spent a month on matchdotcom. the handful of knock-out on that site (maybe six total) said they required a man who earns 150k/yr or more (which means much more than that that amount), and none of those women requested that a man have a six-pack/gymbody (they even listed that they'd be happy with a guy who is "about average").

the old adage is, "women marry for money and have affairs for love."

men go through life never once carrying how much money a woman has. it's not a question we ever ask ourselves about the women who interest us.
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11:40 AM on 03/02/2011
of course women love great sex (and hot men). but on a list of requirements for marriage, those two things are below about four other things. maybe six other things. again, the key word is "marriage".
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lowery2008
01:55 PM on 03/02/2011
I see your point to some degree, but what if she gained the weight during pregnancy would you not give her a chance to loss it or would you just leave? Would you support her and help her loss the weight to nag and criticize?
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02:22 PM on 03/02/2011
pregnancy is pregnancy. pregnant women are beautiful. afterwards i'd be patient and i would help her lose it.

i've actually thought about this. i may not get married and have kids until i can afford to hire a nanny so my wife would have time to stick with her lifelong fitness routine. in theory, i don't mind paying for everything, so long as my (hypothetical) wife stays thin and engaged with things (goes to art galleries, does her art, reads stuff, etc).
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02:28 PM on 03/02/2011
for the record, most guys i know (myself included) think pregnant woman are sort of hot.
06:20 PM on 03/01/2011
Why do people bother to get married when their commitment is so fragile?
04:48 PM on 03/02/2011
Oh, I used to wonder.  I no longer care.  Older men with 20 year olds used to puzzle me.  Whatever in the world would they have in common?  Finally I just accepted that a lot of people don't ever really have what I consider to be a relationship.  They marry.  They have very little real intimacy. 

And both are attracted to that dynamic.
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bergerqueen
03:18 PM on 03/01/2011
Why not pre-nup everything? The amount of expected sex? What about income? I think most people perceive gaining weight as a choice and that's why it becomes a power struggle. Once it becomes a power struggle, a couple gets into trouble.
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Vicki Larson
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07:19 PM on 03/01/2011
@ bergerqueen — “I think most people perceive gaining weight as a choice.” Isn’t it, unless it’s a medical condition?
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lowery2008
01:58 PM on 03/02/2011
Sometimes circumstance prevent a person from exercising and eating right. Like when you have to work 60 hours a week to pay bill. How are you suppose to find time to stay in shape than?
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WorkersUnited
02:20 PM on 03/01/2011
Men have to realize it is much harder for women to lose weight than them.. They naturally have more fat (as it should be- boobs, butt are all fat) and they typically only have a tenth of the testosterone.

Add child care and household duties to the mix and it is very hard to always be in tip top shape. That is why men should be more understanding and help out more during household duties and child rearing.

At the same time, there is no excuse to be obese. That is no one's fault but your own... and any spouse (male or female) has the right to want a partner that they are attracted to. A weak willed man that makes little money and has no ambition is not attractive to a woman. A fat, unattractive woman that does nothing to lose weight and just makes excuses is not attractive to a man.
03:30 PM on 03/01/2011
testosterone doesn't cause you to lose weight. You lose weight by taking in fewer calories than you consume through metabolism, exercise and other activities. Period.

It's actual difficult for anyone to stay slim. it takes effort and disipline. And child care isn't a valid excuse, most gyms and yoga studios etc. provide child care ... or do what my firend does and runs with his child in a jog stroller. Point is, it can be done .... if you want to do it badly enough.
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lowery2008
02:00 PM on 03/02/2011
Add the child care and house hold choirs to a full time job and see when you find the time to go jogging.
04:50 PM on 03/02/2011
After a certain age, it becomes harder.  I agree.  But I think that's due to what you said about calories in/energy out.

I honestly didn't pay attention to food really until middle age.  It was quite a nice discovery when I did!

Boy, food is fun, and nobody can fault you for enjoying it.  Alas, it comes with calories.  :)
10:56 AM on 03/01/2011
Am imagining a pre-nuptial agreement that goes like: "It is agreed that if either spouse gets fat, he/she can request for a divorce without having to pay alimony to the other." XD
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lowery2008
02:01 PM on 03/02/2011
Who gets to define fat? Some people who look fine to me look fat to my mother.
10:20 AM on 03/01/2011
If your pretty wife shows signs of aging, will you leave her? If she develops an illness (physical or mental), would that mean she had materially changed and was "no longer the woman you married"? If you changed for the worse, would you want and expect her to stand by you, or to dump you?

There are boundaries to what people can handle, in terms of change, and abdication of responsibility is a big sign that your spouse is out of control. But you must start, at least, from a position of support rather than contempt, when problems arise; it's part of what separates marriage from dating. Even if you have to bail eventually, you need to make an honest effort to fix the marriage before you leave it.
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Vicki Larson
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02:21 PM on 03/01/2011
@ladiesbane — I think people are trying to distinguish between things we can't control — ie, aging, illness — and things we can — our weight. Changes things a bit.
07:36 PM on 03/01/2011
Understood, but my point is that the cause of the weight gain is a crucial matter. If my husband put on weight as a result of depression, I would try to help him with the cause as well as the symptom. If he grew lazy and indifferent, that would likewise be the real problem -- and if he refused to work on those things, he would be abdicating the relationship, not me. Weight gain doesn't happen for no reason, and the cause would be more relevant to the success or failure of the marriage.

Or look at it from the point of view of devoted love (arguably defining the idea of marriage.) If you adore someone, if his happiness is vital to your own, if you feel loving protectiveness and would forsake all others to be with him, are you going to divorce him for an extra ten pounds? Or twenty? Consider all the widows (and widowers) who would give anything to have their spouses alive again, and whether they would care about the degree of weight that Pascal finds divorce-worthy.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be married to someone who wouldn't miss me if I died fat. My value is not tied to my dress size any more than it's tied to my hair length. (I once had a beau who said he'd dump me if I bobbed my hair. My hair is still long, but he's history.)
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09:45 AM on 03/01/2011
Women's bodies change due to aging and after pregnancy. Men need to accept that. It's one thing to say "Honey, I don't believe you're at your healthiest anymore and I want to help you." It's another thing to say, "I'm leaving you, because I no longer find you attractive." If a man ever said that he would leave me if I got fat, I'd tell him I'd be out the door if he ever started losing his hair. Although, I'd be out the door sooner, since I don't ever want to date (or be) such a shallow, superficial pig.
03:32 PM on 03/01/2011
There are plenty of women who don't keep signifacnt weight gain post-pregnancy, how do they do it?
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05:15 PM on 03/01/2011
You would have to ask one of them, I suppose. I wonder how much of it is genetics too.
04:51 PM on 03/02/2011
Being young helps.  I had the weight on for approximately a month.  Breast feeding also just melts the fat away.
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Vicki Larson
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05:00 PM on 03/01/2011
You might want to ask some people just how helpful "Honey, I don't believe you're at your healthiest anymore and I want to help you" is. Not very to people who don't want to hear the truth, or take umbrage at "I want to help you."
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12:06 PM on 03/02/2011
So of course the response to "I don't want to hear what your are telling me, because I'm not ready to hear it yet' is "Honey, I think you're ugly and I'm leaving you?"

You need to date different men.
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KDMac
It's called sarcasm, Genius.
09:40 AM on 03/01/2011
Yeah, when my husband lost all his hair through chemo, I should have dumped his sorry behind. Then like a dummy, I stayed when steroids made him blow up like a balloon. Why ME, Lord?
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Erinaleks
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07:42 AM on 03/01/2011
Obesity Is unhealthy. Like smoking it is a health hazard. There is so much information on exercise and nutrition. Most jobs require little physical activity. The living room and computer are the virtual entertainment centers one trip down any isle of a supermarket is filled with surgar, salted, fat, processed chemical ridden stuff called "food". Drive anywhere and fast food outlets dominate any strip mall or as I call it "road crud". 24/7 advertisement propaganda from the media to sell their poison called "food"". Then you have pharmaceutical company's hawking medicine to cure you from the intake of the lifestyle ruining your health, which further adds to the problem. Neighborhoods built without sidewalks and stores located only by motorcar. I could go on and on. My solution, become a vegetarian, exercise daily, and find fun activities such as biking, walking, swimming ,hiking, camping, sports. Be the example for your spouse and kids. The healthy lifestyle cures most problems all by itself. No therapists , lawyers, doctors, medication. Try this for 8 weeks. It is a lifestyle not a diet. I bet you won't go back to your old ways
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01:02 AM on 03/01/2011
Honestly, if your "husband" is making comments about your weight, and that makes you feel like garbage, quit wasting your time. Just dump him, its better for you in the long run. People who say they "love" you help you to succeed in life, not fail. (but this is what happens when the culture is full of entitled porn addicts.)
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09:41 AM on 03/01/2011
Seriously. I would consider that emotional abuse.
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slash77
You have failed me for the last time !!!!!
11:57 PM on 02/28/2011
This is one of those topics a lot of people think about but never openly discuss.

Weight gain does/can affect a relationship….because it can and does affect the quality of any relationship… and I mean for both sexes.

For those couples where excess weight is not at issue great…but for those where this will affect how you perceive your partner an early discussion is great as long as you both plan on how you are going to support each other’s weight control as the years pass. I would treasure a relationship where regular exercise was part of our routine….but…according to so many studies…. After a time even regular sex becomes a challenge to married couples.

Yep Naïve…..