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Wayne Besen

Wayne Besen

Posted: July 6, 2010 11:50 AM

Beers and Queers

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A recent USA Today feature showed a striking similarity to the religious right's ongoing wars on beers and queers.

In the case of alcohol, America's busybodies organized at the turn of the last century, which led to Prohibition in 1920. The teetotalers claimed drinking was a terrible sin and that they had the right to impose their beliefs on the entire country. The result was an unmitigated disaster that is best remembered for unintended consequences -- such as dangerous moonshine and the rise of bootlegging mobsters.

In terms of LGBT people, religious fanatics banned together in the late 1970's to pass or uphold laws that forced their sexual hang-ups and moralizing mores onto people they considered sinful. The unintended consequences included a high suicide rate among gay people and countless divorces that occurred after spouses came out of the closet.

The fight against beers and queers is most similar in that they both encompass pitched, ongoing battles, and both issues are subject to a maddening patchwork of anachronistic laws at the state, county and local levels.

For example, 1 in 9 counties in the United States are still dry. Similarly, for LGBT people, laws on employment protection, marriage and adoption fluctuate wildly from place-to-place. Indeed, a gay person's family can be fully recognized by law in one state, but as soon as the state line is crossed, the family ceases to exist as a legal entity. It really is the metaphorical equivalent of traveling from dry to wet counties with a bottle of whiskey in the car.

To ensure that gay people are second-class citizens, the religious right regularly lies about LGBT life, yet does so with soothing language about "protecting" marriage. In modern anti-gay campaigns, slick, high-priced consultants go out of their way to appear as if their campaigns are not about hate. This is part of an effort to entice mainstream voters who are turned off by fire and brimstone messages.

Similarly, today's teetotalers are using chicanery to disguise their true intentions and avoid upsetting political moderates. For instance, in a Mount Pleasant, Texas, campaign to keep alcohol illegal, a soft and misleading slogan, "Mount Pleasant Cares", was intentionally created to deceive voters.

"We never mentioned beer or wine," Vatra Solomon, a local resident and political consultant who advised the drys told USA Today. "We talked about children and safety and a healthy environment -- those buzzwords. A lot of people like a glass of wine at dinner or a beer watching the Cowboys. We couldn't afford to offend them."

Isn't this eerily similar to how some campaigns use code words like, "family values," to conceal that passing anti-gay marriage laws cruelly strip away hospital visitation rights for same-sex couples? When it comes to the religious right, a belief in End Times often justifies the mean-spirited means.

Fortunately, the religious zealots are losing both battles, as grudging tolerance is finally giving way to acceptance by the wider culture. In terms of alcohol, "drys are losing ground on all levels, from the state -- since 2002, 14 states have ended bans on Sunday alcohol sales," according to USA Today.

The number of Tennessee communities that allow sales of liquor by the drink (in bars and restaurants) has increased 56% since 2003. In the same period, 22 of Texas' 254 counties and more than 235 of its municipalities have gone wet (or "moist," a category in which beer and wine might be legal, but not liquor).

Of course, the same can now be said for homosexuality, with a majority of Americans now finding gay relations acceptable and an overwhelming number in favor of allowing gay soldiers to be able to serve openly in the military. Five states allow LGBT couples to marry. It often seems that victories, large and small, are happening on a weekly, if not daily, basis.

Economic factors are a common denominator for recent momentum in efforts to end bans on spirits and LGBT rights. Locales are beginning to understand that being perceived as rigid and judgmental backwaters is not conducive to attracting new businesses. After all, few people want to relocate to a place that is lorded over by a narrow-minded fundamentalist elite.

One lesson to be learned from the alcohol fight is that fundamentalists don't give up very easily. These fanatics have been railing against alcohol distribution, sales and consumption since Prohibition ended in 1933. They have fought tooth and nail to impose their values on entire communities. So, even though we may have reached a tipping point on LGBT equality, don't expect our foes to fold the tent anytime soon.

Still, this battle is instructive because alcohol was once the religious right's sin du jour. Now, most national right wing organizations don't waste time or political capital lobbying to ban booze. The once biblical absolute against alcohol is disappearing as quickly as a shot of Absolut Vodka.

Would anybody bet a six pack that the same won't be true for the alleged "sin" of homosexuality?

 

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A recent USA Today feature showed a striking similarity to the religious right's ongoing wars on beers and queers. In the case of alcohol, America's busybodies organized at the turn of the last cent...
A recent USA Today feature showed a striking similarity to the religious right's ongoing wars on beers and queers. In the case of alcohol, America's busybodies organized at the turn of the last cent...
 
 
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PRONESE
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11:13 PM on 07/06/2010
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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
06:39 PM on 07/06/2010
Outside of a religious context there should be no recognition of marriage. There should be contracts people can enter into that deal with these issues: inheritance, shared properties, end of life decisions, etc. If we really want to bring ourselves into this century then this antiquated practice should be eliminated other than as a quaint tradition and have no legal status.
i the ys
eternity takes no time at all
12:15 AM on 07/07/2010
Marriage is a legal contract and has nothing to do with religion. Try getting married in a church without a license and see how far you get. Then try getting married without any church involvement - no problem. Religions that find something wrong with love are not about god or jebus or anything but mankinds hatred.
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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
01:16 PM on 07/07/2010
That is my exact point. Make it clear that this is a legal contract not a religious one. Religion can have their ceremonies that have nothing to do with the state. Do not have the state recognize ceremonies done by churches. All marriages should be simple legal documents done by a court or one of it's representatives. So long as we have churches involved in the process we will have these sorts of issues.
12:06 PM on 07/08/2010
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winning! Absolutely correct!
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Richard McRae
12:31 PM on 07/07/2010
Forcing religion to be a religious institution is an antiquated concept that is about as far from this century as you can get.

Marriage should be about two people who've made the decision to spend the rest of their lives together and be a family in every way. It shouldn't be about what one of the literally hundreds of religions say it should be.
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Angie Tyne 1
I want my disagree button!!
01:17 PM on 07/07/2010
Exactly my point. See above.
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
06:30 PM on 07/06/2010
Misses the crucial point: Prohibition passed because women got the vote.
Carrie Nation, the WCTU, the Salvation Army: Prohibition was a crusade of female do-gooders.

I don't see the analogy here.
Unlike Prohibition, I don't believe women are primarily responsible for impeding gay rights.
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ramal
One's only real life is the life one never leads.
02:25 AM on 07/07/2010
True, but supposedly "religious" people are.
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elijah24
Ubuntu
09:24 AM on 07/07/2010
This is a red herring. Of course there are differences. Alcohol is a liquid, gay people are solids. Alcohol is a noun, gay is an adjective. The involvement of women is not only not a crucial point, it is completly unrelated.
That said, you wanna bring Carrie Nation into this, we can. Todays Carrie Nations are Pat Robertson, Rick Warren, and the hateful religious fanatics, who insist on forcing their understanding of Leviticus onto the entire country, in the face of constitutional opposition. Maybe you should try to stay on topic.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
04:08 PM on 07/06/2010
From the future: However the days of bootlegging homosexuality across state and county lines fleeing unust laws have ended, and now are mostly remembered in the beloved motorsports such as the annual Tulsa-San Fransisco Rally.

We'll have a beer. :)
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LiberalLee
Yes I am a witch. Deal with it.
04:07 PM on 07/06/2010
The funniest thing of all is that these same "beer & queer" bashers are so proud of their country's heritage--what little they understand of it.
A nation founded on religious freedom is NOT the place for one religion to stand up and inflict ( yes
INFLICT) their bugaboos and taboos on the rest of us in the name of their religion.
I'm sure the irony is lost on them.
I for one am sick of that tired refrain, ' My god's better than your god!"
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
04:41 PM on 07/06/2010
My god' better than your god
my god's better than yours
my god's better
'cause he gets Ken-L-Ration
my god's better than yours!

People repeat stuff they hear on TV. See? LOL
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GandenT
03:42 PM on 07/06/2010
A great thing about this article is that it takes the right approach to the political wedge issue of gayness. It's not a question of whether or not this or that abusive practice or tradition infringes on a civil right. The real question is: why the hell is the government establishing religious dogmas or theories as the laws of our secular society when it clearly has no power to do that under the constitution, indeed it is specifically prohibited from doing so. It's not as if religion, any one of them or all taken together, has anything to do with morality; that's just an unsubstantiated claim made by people who think the world is flat and circled by the sun -- hardly expert witness about serious adult matters. If people want to turn their churches into Klan Rallies, then let them, good riddance; just make them obey our secular laws in public. The government is not supposed to pretend to be a church any more than a church is supposed to pretend to be a government.
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TankGirlz
can we have a "This post is full of suck" button?
03:37 PM on 07/06/2010
GREAT Comic!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ZoHhU6U04
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GandenT
02:54 PM on 07/06/2010
This country would be a lot better off if we stopped appeasing the sick proclivities of these radical religious extremists and pushed them back into their churches if that's where they're happiest. Removing their dogmas and theories from our money, gov't, military, laws, oaths, marriages, births, deaths, and so forth would go a long way towards restoring the country's integrity and would allow us to focus on serious issues like our economy, jobs, environment, national defense, energy, infrastructure, agriculture, and the American Dream of having the freedom to pursue a better life for ourselves and our loved ones. Instead we have to run through the town squares with a mob chasing down gays, atheists, freethinkers, Catholics, blacks, Muslims, pregnant women, unmarried women, divorcees, (not) adulterers (for some reason...), godless communists, mormons, polygamists, and of course anyone who holds an even slightly different interpretation of whatever Religion the government establishes (assuming the American Taliban get their wish) as our official religion. the irony is that even if these hatemongering extremists got what they wanted they would then turn on each other over such important issues as the exact number of angels dancing on the head of a pin... Naturallly, if the gov't would stop establishing religion people could quite happily practice their own without Gov't sponsored molestation, coercion, and the like...
BadIdeas
What if we run out of wealthy people?
02:48 PM on 07/06/2010
BAD IDEA: Enforcing any morals on society!

If someone wants to do something they should be able to do it. Why do we have laws that prevent people from happiness? Any law that keeps a person unhappy is unjust and should be eliminated.
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Alwayspissedoffatsomeone
Fighting for Common Sense
02:53 PM on 07/06/2010
"Any law that keeps a person unhappy is unjust and should be eliminated." -- bad

Are you serious? Have you thought about this ridiculous statement?
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LiberalLee
Yes I am a witch. Deal with it.
04:12 PM on 07/06/2010
If you want to be miserable, go right ahead. No one will stop you.
But forcing YOUR brand of religious nutjobbery and miseries on others is arrogant, ill-mannered and shows a level of hubris that should see you into your ficticious h3ll since it IS one of those deadly sins.
02:56 PM on 07/06/2010
I think I have a right to kill people. Laws preventing me from killing people I don't like make me unhappy. Ergo...
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joadar
02:11 PM on 07/06/2010
I really don't think comparing LGBT rights to alcohol consumption is doing any favors for the LGBT community. Alcohol consumption is more like gun rights. Guns are generally believed to be "bad" in some sense and so is alcohol, but they are parts of our society and rather than pretend we can make them go away completely, we need to regulate them and deal with the fact that they are here. Thus, I can drink as long as I'm not driving, and I can own a gun, so long as I promise I wont use it inappropriately. But there is an understanding that bad things CAN happen as a result of using either of these.

LGBT rights are a human rights issue. There is no real danger in them, unlike alcohol and guns. There is no good reason anyone should not have these rights. Any threat they supposedly cause is purely in the heads of religious extremists. No one has lost their child to gay driving. As a matter of fact, teenagers DO die committing suicide rather than coming out of the closet.

I get what you're saying about religious extremists trying to impose morality, but I think there is a logical argument to be made in the dry movement about safety, even if that wasn't the tune being sung at the time. I enjoy a drink as much as the next person- probably more, because I'm from Wisconsin, but drinking involves risks that LGBT rights do not.
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bolivare
IT'S SO FLUFFY!!
02:36 PM on 07/06/2010
But its not the point. He's comparing that mindset to this mindset. The parallels are quite stark.
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joadar
03:29 PM on 07/06/2010
It's completely different. One is an argument of hate and ignorance. The other is about productivity, and safety. Further, as someone else has also said, those who advocated for prohibition were not religious conservatives. Many of them were the same women that fought for suffrage. They were progressives. Perhaps there was a religious argument made at some point, but that was the spirit of the time. The two things are hardly comparable, except that they are both loosely based on some perceived morality.
02:36 PM on 07/06/2010
I think I could find a lot of parents who would tell you they lost their children to the equivalent of "gay driving". I recognize that most diseases try to be equal opportunity, but the statistics show that some behaviours are really just riskier than others.
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Flip75
What's wrong with my micro-bio?
02:57 PM on 07/06/2010
"Gay driving?" Would that be cruising around town in a fabulous convertible with Lady GaGa blasting on the radio? (I have to inject some humor here, because your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.)
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joadar
03:24 PM on 07/06/2010
Are you referring to AIDS? Why not just say it so everyone can tell you how ignorant you are. AIDS IS an equal opportunity disease. If it's more prevalent in gay circles it's because we have shunned a group of people to the point that we aren't addressing important sex education practices for that group.

They didn't lose their children to "gay driving", they lost their children to unprotected sex, and a lack of sex education. Obviously if there's no possibility of babies, no condom needed, right? They should be fighting the abstinence only sex education, not same sex marriage. Or sit down your kid with a banana and a condom and make sure they know it's not just about babies.
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Morcat
02:06 PM on 07/06/2010
Personally, I think the Texas Republican agenda is a gift straight from heaven. Moderates and liberals -- and yes, more of us are in Texas than the media would have you believe -- need to ride that far right agenda right on up to November. The more radical Perry, et al are labeled, the more chance there is for some significant progress in the state.
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05:36 PM on 07/06/2010
I'm in Texas and I completely agree... I like to tell the Republican men that I am around regularly about the pornography ban in the GOPs agenda here. If you haven't done this- I recommend it! It's hilarious.
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legalclubs
01:47 PM on 07/06/2010
Just to add a little historical perspective, the Prohibition movement was largely a Democrat Party movement reach its apex with the election of Democrat Woodrow Wilson and the passage of the 18th Amendment. In fact, the leaders of the movement called themselves "Progressives". http://www.anzasa.arts.usyd.edu.au/ahas/prohibition_overview.html

The gay marriage/equal rights movement appears to be inevitable as history marches forward. More people are changing their minds and the older generation, where anti-gay stereotypes are strongest and where opposition to equal rights is greatest, is dying off being replaced by a more elightened younger generation. Such major movements are sometimes slow, but inevitable.
04:43 PM on 07/06/2010
Prior to prohibition it was legal to drink. The repeal of prohibition restored the old order and allowed drinking again..

California allowed same sex marriage until, like the repeal of prohibition, the old order was restored by voters.
10:33 PM on 07/06/2010
You have it wrong. The California supreme court found that equal marriage is permitted by the California constitution. That is, 'gay marriage' was (should have been) allowed all along. The voters, with Prop 8, amended the California constitution to create a separate class of persons for the purposes of discriminating against them. This is similar to the 18th amendment. We're now waiting to either strike this amendent (the 'Prop8 trial') or vote it down (in 2012) which would be similar to the 21 amendment.
rixter1965
I'll respect your beliefs, but at least be consist
08:39 AM on 07/07/2010
I think you meant a little HYSTERICAL PERSPECTIVE...

1. The adjectival form is DemocratIC.

2. The Prohibition movement was hardly something that arose out of the DemocratIC Party alone. The constituencies that made up the Democratic Party incluced immigrants from "less savory" parts of Europe as well as Southerners and Catholics -- hence the epithet made famous by Dr. Samuel Birchard during the 1884 Presidential campaign (Birchard supporting Republican candidate James G. Blaine). This alliterative slogan captured what many believed to be true: the Democratic Party was against "core American beliefs": the prohibition of alcohol, that Catholics' loyalty to the pope was exclusive with being American, and that (Southern) Democrats had threatened to destroy the Union.

3. The historical term Progressive applies to members of both political parties including Teddy Roosevelt, initially a Republican President.
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Busbydav
01:46 PM on 07/06/2010
I wonder how many teetotalers enjoy their occasional drink and gay lovin. Hypocrisy tends to be a religious right cornerstone.
ModerateVoiceofReason
Confusing with facts
01:43 PM on 07/06/2010
Way too many problems in our society are caused by the consumption of alcohol. Think what would happen If alcohol were truly banned and everyone, EVERYONE stopped getting drunk.
There would be much less crime and fatal accidents and our healthcare costs would plummet. Productivity would improve.
I can't think of one palpable improvement to our society by having laws against homosexuality. What societal ill is being remedied?
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joadar
02:00 PM on 07/06/2010
I agree that alcohol use is different from homosexuality. However...

In the case of alcohol, it's one of those meet the world where it's at kind of issues.
1. There is alcohol in the world.
2. There are many people that know how to produce alcohol.
Therefore, if you try and make alcohol illegal, people being people, they will continue to produce it. The only difference is now it's completely unregulated because some guy's just making it in his basement. Who knows whats in it or how strong it is.

That being said, I do agree that comparing alcohol consumption to homosexuality does not do the LGBT community any favors.
ModerateVoiceofReason
Confusing with facts
02:30 PM on 07/06/2010
I agree with your reply. The gist of my comment is that if somehow somebody had the power to rid the world of all alcohol, including the knowledge to produce it, society would be much better. There is no earthly improvement made if homosexuality is eradicated (my opinion).

I think you got that I was speaking in hypothetical terms. No way will alcohol be eradicated, it's an accepted drug. Just look at "unaccepted" drugs, such as meth and coke. Are they going anywhere?
04:45 PM on 07/06/2010
That would be like banning marijuana. No one uses it now.
01:42 PM on 07/06/2010
I think people are a little confused about who the Prohibitionists were. They weren't the "religious right": whatever they is supposed to mean in the context on of the early 20th century. A lot of them were also Suffragettes and worked in the realm of what would be considered liberal politics.
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bolivare
IT'S SO FLUFFY!!
02:38 PM on 07/06/2010
My guess would be they were religionists who wanted to force their beliefs on everyone else. I would suspect that these people became what is not the religious right.
03:12 PM on 07/06/2010
By guessing I think you're just saying you're ignorant. The early 20th century social justice movements were religious. The Abolitionist Movement was also dominated by the religious. Get over it.
The Religious Right didn't come into being until the 1970's.
04:25 PM on 07/06/2010
"Prohibitionists viewed themselves as progressive reformers, not as conservatives. Frances Willard, leader of the WCTU for many years, sought solutions to poverty and unemployment, and by 1896 had declared herself a Christian Socialist. Prohibitionists were the only party that consistently endorsed national woman suffrage, and a substantial part of the party's convention delegates were women from the WCTU."
http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/prohibition.html