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The Religious Right's Shadow Nation

Posted: 07/10/11 07:09 PM ET

Lately, it seems Christian fundamentalists have campaigned to pervert the notion of "religious freedom" to mean they have the absolute right to control lives and dictate how other people live. If they are unable to coerce or browbeat non-believers into following their church's rules in the public square, they falsely play the victim card and cry "discrimination."

For normal Americans, religious freedom means the right to worship according to conscience. This most basic tenet of liberty is not enough for America's predatory fundamentalists. They believe they are superior and have the God-given right to force society to play by their rules. This inability to co-exist is a divisive and destabilizing force that must be adequately addressed.

How far will these extremists go to get their way and claim special rights? Consider a new bill proposed by two Michigan state senators, Tupac Hunter (D-Detroit) and Mark Jansen (R-Grand Rapids) that would permit students in counseling programs to refuse helping clients with issues that conflicted with their "sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions."

The Michigan Messenger reported this week that this ludicrous legislation was in response to an Eastern Michigan University student, Julea Ward, who was expelled from a counseling program after declining to counsel a gay student. According to the Messenger, Ward refused to offer relationship advice because she thought it was tantamount to cheerleading a "lifestyle" that she rejected.

Ward sued in federal court, but they have so far ruled that Christians are still part of society and not above the rule of law.

"[Ward] was met with I feel an inappropriate response whereby she was penalized for having her own moral conviction," Hunter told the Michigan Messenger. "The legislation was crafted to do exactly what it says. To prohibit an individual who is in one of those programs who has a value conflict from being discriminated against."

First, all respected mental health organizations say that homosexuality is not a disease that can be treated. Any counseling that rejects gay relationships or coming out as an option is by nature inappropriate, unhealthy and damaging to the client. Furthermore, counseling should be about the patient, not the self-serving religious needs of the therapist. If ultra-religious counselors can't do their jobs, they should consider a new career in the clergy, where they can indulge their beliefs.

Second, the counseling profession by nature is one where experts provide advice to people with whom they may personally disagree. It is absolutely preposterous that self-righteous therapists would install purity tests for potential clients and cherry pick the ones who are sanitized by scripture. And what happens midway though weekly therapy if the seemingly wholesome client reveals an unseemly fetish, distasteful action, or insalubrious thought? Does the offended therapist abruptly end further sessions, humiliating the client who is made to feel dirty and unworthy? Might this harsh condemnation and judgment do more damage than the original reason the individual sought help, which would rightfully be considered malpractice?

Third, the bill conveniently caters to anti-gay therapists, but ignores the consciences of counselors with controversial, yet equally sincere beliefs. When the Michigan Messenger asked Senator Hunter about racial exceptions, he replied, "No. That is where I draw the line." He rationalized his comments by making the false claim that the Bible prohibits homosexual activity but does not support racism. Hunter must not be aware that religious groups like the Southern Baptist Convention used the Bible to justify slavery and segregation. Or, maybe he is aware and believes that conscience only counts if it passes his "conservative correctness" test.

Finally, carving out special exemptions for blue-nosed Christian therapists would set a very dangerous precedent. The Religious Right loves to use slippery slope arguments, even if their application of them is often irrational and groundless.

In the case of the Michigan counselor, however, the slippery slope is very real and could tear apart our nation's unity and sense of purpose. If a Christian therapist can reject gay clients, why can't a fundamentalist mail carrier elect not to deliver letters advertising concerts for the Gay Men's Chorus? Or what about an Orthodox Jewish deli manager working in a secular supermarket who won't sell non-Kosher meat to reform Jews? How about a Muslim tollbooth worker of Saudi Arabian descent who refuses to let women drive through his lane because he believes it would offend Allah? (We are already seeing Christian pharmacists who deny birth control based on religious beliefs)

There is no end to the madness if we begin accommodating the supremacist and separatist impulses of fundamentalists. The Michigan bill is morally wrong, harmful to this country and could potentially create a chaotic and divisive situation where members of favored religious sects are exempt from laws that govern the general public.

As the old saying goes, if you don't like America, you can change it or leave it. But we absolutely cannot tolerate the creation of a shadow fundamentalist nation within our borders that confuses liberty with license to run roughshod over legitimate individual rights, professional standards, and the obligations of U.S. citizenship.

 

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selahsinger
My micro-bio isn't empty
11:12 AM on 07/18/2011
"the counseling profession by nature is one where experts provide advice to people with whom they may personally disagree"

It seems you are confusing 'providing advice' with an acceptance of the action itself. If a client were to come to me stating they are starting fires, I wouldn't stop seeing them, but I would try to stop the action from continuing. If the client wanted advice on how to better start fires, I wouldn't be able to give it.

You seem to be stating that counselors are required to give advice to help someone continue acting in a way they believe to be harmful to the patient or others.
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09:18 AM on 07/12/2011
For normal Americans, religious freedom means the right to worship according to conscience. This most basic tenet of liberty is not enough for America's predatory fundamentalists.
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Separation of religion and state is not a simple issue and never has been. If the religious kept their religion between themselves and their chosen deity, this problem would never arise--but that's not how most religions work.

Their practitioners feel guided to tell others how to live--beyond the requirements of the laws we must all obey.

Such intrusions into the private space of secular citizens--or those who just disagree--must not be tolerated.

History is full of reasons why this is true.
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Doug Sandlin
We see the world not as it is, but as we are.
08:09 PM on 07/12/2011
I agree with you completely, here, Jan.

The difference between this thread and others is that the excesses of those trying to inappropriately from religion in secular environments are engaging in actual, documented actions here in the United States.

I'm not seeing that same situation at all, in the threads where we usually comment back and forth.

And indpendently of that - I simply and sincerely agree with you, here. Good points. Faved.
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08:20 PM on 07/12/2011
Thanks, Doug.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
05:20 PM on 07/11/2011
Interesting thing, btw, about me being a highly-loyal queer Pagan-American citizen who deeply believes human rights are hers by birthright.

I pity the fool who ever convinces me that ain't so.

I really do.
03:27 PM on 07/11/2011
Wouldn't you hope that an examination for obtaining a professional license would eliminate such an obviously unqualified person as a counselor?
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
04:28 PM on 07/11/2011
They want 'conscience exemptions' to abuse without consequence.
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Kittyburger
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05:36 PM on 07/11/2011
As a transgender American, conscience exceptions terrify me.
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Bill J4321
01:24 PM on 07/11/2011
If one is not willing to live up to the standards of one's chosen profession, one should not be allowed to be a part of that profession.

No matter what God tells them.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
06:10 PM on 07/11/2011
Their God apparently want to hurt people and if someone got him wrong, that's a matter of paperwork. Stop hurting people.
12:42 PM on 07/11/2011
The religious right in America.....same as Taliban in Afghanistan.....same as Netanyahu and the Likud in Israel. Avoid at all costs!
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CMB1969
raging moderate
11:55 AM on 07/11/2011
well, if this young woman doesn't approve of being required to counsel clients in a secular setting under secular terms and conditions, there are already plenty of religious-affiliated schools that have graduate programs in 'Christian Counseling'....

Of course, she wouldn't be paying state university tuition and following graduation the insurance companies (which are already stingy about mental health coverage to begin with...) wouldn't cover her services, but the balkanization of America on the terms stated in the article is pretty much an established fact already. I, personally, have mixed feelings about all this--if people won't get along, cooperate, and play nice with each other, perhaps the best strategy might be to let everyone break off into their own insular communities and leave it to the state to regulate and referee contact. That is, after all, the way the Ottoman Empire maintained a veneer of peace and cooperation between a wide range of social and religious communities for centuries.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
05:12 PM on 07/11/2011
Those programs claim to be legitimately-accredited but do business as if they aren't trying to enforce a right-wing Christianist agenda, and, as in th case of Bachmann's husband, take hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dolllars to torment LGBT people according to their religious agenda for money.
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CMB1969
raging moderate
05:32 PM on 07/11/2011
well why the heck would a LGBT person seek guidance from one of those 'Christian Counselors'? I don't know about about elsewhere, but where I live (on the Arkansas/Oklahoma line) those evangelical-styled counseling folk are patronized by people in their own community. Personally, the more the bible-thumpers want to break off into their own communities and self-segregate, the better it is for me.
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Charles Fortner
Every man a king, but nobody wears a crown.
06:00 AM on 07/16/2011
The caliphate is looking more and more desirable.
11:27 AM on 07/11/2011
Since the extreme seems to be supplanting Jesus with persecution, they may want to avoid the healthcare industry all together. Their pharmacists do not want to care for their sin du jour with the morning after pill, their behavioral care professionals do not want to care for their sin du jour calling our beloved children/patients barbarians and hawking the the barbarian cure. In fact, there seems to be a trend toward the use of traditional healthcare for American taxpaying citizens, is a weapon for persecution.Perry, outraged that his Texans' private parts are touched by airport screeners, wants to FORCE US American taxpaying female citizens to submit to a medical procedure touching their private parts for the sole purpose of harassment and persecution. We already had this debate with Germany and won.
10:00 AM on 07/11/2011
Couldn't agree more and no one should be under any delusions that fundamentalist Christians would rather see the fabric of our society shredded and everything that holds us together as a nation destroyed rather than accept fair treatment of LGBT's (I'll skip the Q because, if my understanding of so-called queer theory is correct, it potentially undermines the struggle for LGBT equality). Such a society is already wrecked in their view and condemned in the eyes of God. At any rate, I wonder if a further motivation for these anti-gay religious exemptions isn't to create an environment where legislatures are intimidated by the legal complexity and burden of meeting the religious right's demands and shrink from considering gay rights legislation as a result. Let's hope our courts at least will recognize the very real slippery slope nature of these exemptions, since I suspect that the majority of Americans would consider these exemptions a reasonable compromise.
11:37 AM on 07/11/2011
"Q" may also stand for "questioning," so feel free to be inclusive.
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Charles Fortner
Every man a king, but nobody wears a crown.
06:06 AM on 07/16/2011
I highly approve questioning even of my own basic assumptions and highly reccommend that to people I regard highly, along with adopting my hobby: Abandoning strongly held opinions. Keeps me young and frisky.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:46 AM on 07/11/2011
A lot of things are called 'Queer Theory,' but those of us who call ourselves 'Queer' aren't necessarily defined by such 'theory.' (However you think it 'undermines the struggle for equality' to see things in terms of an unspecified 'queer theory,' ....It's first and foremost a term of solidarity for those of us *called* queer, (whether or not we strictly fit any one letter of the 'alphabet soup,')

'Queer theory' *tends* to be a label put on a lot of theories that go overboard in some ways: (it's pretty notorious for denying the reality of *transsexuals* in particular, falling into the old saw 'You should just be genderqueer and accept your bodies as they are,' when clearly, for transsexuals, their experience of body-incongruity is very real, regardless of gender-expression. Transsexuals *are* treated horribly for being 'queer,' but that doesn't mean there's a 'theory' that can undercut *their* rights to be treated well as they seek to rectify what's actually, I assure you, really painful and very physical issues for them. Never mind equality for all, just because some 'queer theory' may stress fluidity of expression and a deconstruction of specific categories.

If that helps. There's a lot to it. But just cause there's intellectual debate about 'queer theory' doesn't change the nature of the term (or initial) or mean anything about it undermines the need for full civil equality, just cause society's looking for simpler answers.
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wmnorton
Moderate where moderate used to be
08:37 AM on 07/11/2011
The primary reason that the Republican raidcal relgious right dismiss all science is that they are stuck in the past as defined by Abraham 5000 year ago.Where else do we accept that kind of thinking. We now know that the world is not flat, Earth is not the center of the universe, it is not even the center of our solar system. You can't cure illness with leaches and bleeding, Jesus is not coming back today or tommorow or next month or next year, The rapture happens everyday, it's called dying. Why should someone that believes all these old wives tales get to tell me what to think when the evidence clearly shows that they do not know what they are talking about.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
07:33 AM on 07/11/2011
I have to say, I am more than a little tired of the whole "persecution" whine of the Christianist fundies. They literally cannot live and let live. They have the right to worship according to their beliefs, but that is not enough. They wish to force their religion down the throats of everyone else. They want the right to pretty much do this any time and any place they wish...a few moments of silence at the start of the school day isn't enough--they want prayer back in our schools. They want to be able to use tax monies to push their religious agenda--think who is likely to be paying for that (and thank you for coining the term, Margaret Atwood) their Prayervaganza in Texas in August. Now if they want to pay for it themselves, whatever. What I object to is the use of taxpayer monies (many of said taxpayers are not straight and/or not Christian) to push this stuff. Do it on your own dime, fundies, not the taxes of those whom you wish to "put in their place" with your outlandish, discriminatory laws.
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Bill J4321
01:26 PM on 07/11/2011
To 'christians,' persecution is when the people you are attacking and abusing decide to fight back.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
06:11 PM on 07/11/2011
Definition: Bullies.
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Charles Fortner
Every man a king, but nobody wears a crown.
06:10 AM on 07/16/2011
Historically accurate.
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04:38 AM on 07/11/2011
The major issue with Christian fundamentalists is that they are not true Christians, just as Muslim fundamentalists are not true Muslims.
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JohnFromCensornati
The End is near
09:05 AM on 07/11/2011
Toe-may-toe, toe-mot-toe.
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Charles Fortner
Every man a king, but nobody wears a crown.
06:20 AM on 07/16/2011
Tomato is of the same family as the deadly nightshade, Jimson weed, etc. Conservatives can tell the difference between a garden tomato and jimson weed,but their own genus and species tends to be of the more poisonous and deadly variety. Unfortunately their fertilization by fundamentalism results in a madness that afflicts others at the same time it provides them with a heroin-like immunity to reality and at the same time constitutes them with a propensity for prejudices of all sorts toward other humanoids.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:56 PM on 07/11/2011
I'm very unconcerned about whether my taliban is authentic. It's its existence that concerns me.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
06:13 PM on 07/11/2011
If someone needs shooting, it's probably not about whetherr or not Americans hate *me.* Hate to break it to you. But that was pretty clear before I blew the soot of 9/11 out my nose.
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collettethehedgehog
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03:46 AM on 07/11/2011
What is not even addressed on here is the quality of the counseling offered by evangelicals. If in their church they want to counsel women that the problems with their marriage is that they are too feminist and they need submit to their husbands to be happy-then OK. But someone with those preconceived problem solvers should either learn to curb them in a counseling program which as this case shows they find compromises their faith-or not do secular counseling courses. I shudder to the think the damage they can do to those who are vulnerable with their "you are a sinner and going to hell approach."
Lahi
sensible is not a dirty word
04:06 AM on 07/11/2011
So true, and as a non religious counselor, I have heard horror stories of the 'church-based' where abuses were excused and justified.
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Bill J4321
01:28 PM on 07/11/2011
I would imagine anyone seeking 'christian' counseling would later need in-patient therapy to undo the damage caused by a 'christian' therapist who would put their own personal dogma above the welfare of their patient.
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Gennaphyr
Reformed and recovered Christian fundamentalist
03:35 AM on 07/11/2011
This is why it's so important to choose your therapist wisely. Don't just let your insurance company tell you who to choose. Talk to your friends, get referrals, interview the therapist. If you are a young gay person you need to know that the person you are paying is going to be able to help and guide you and not condemn you or attempt to convert you.
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UnderTheHedgeWeGo
Show me some evidence.
10:42 AM on 07/11/2011
Which is all very good advice. Unfortunately in this case the issue is a therapist made available to a student at a college. Being a student she no doubt didn't have the resources to search for an alternative.
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03:16 AM on 07/11/2011
This kind of religious exemption has a very unfortunate amount of precedence. In WA, there has been a bit of a battle going back and forth on what pharmacists are allowed to refuse which prescriptions based on religious freedom. It started out mostly with Plan B pills, but has seen several situations of HIV treatment, blood clotting pills often prescribed after an abortion, among others. It amazes me how there is even a debate on this. You shouldn't take up a profession outside of your church, if you can't handle dealing with people that don't 100% agree with your religious beliefs.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
07:37 AM on 07/11/2011
That is unconscionable. If they don't want to dispense prescriptions then they can find another profession or start their own drug stores. I wasn't aware that this nonsense has now spread to HIV meds. Why is this crap being tolerated. Either the fundies can do their job without regard to what they are dispensing (except where it might react with some other med the patient is taking, but that is already acknowledged) or they can get out and let people with some sense of medical ethics take over.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
09:37 AM on 07/11/2011
Yeah, we just had yet *another* story about last-minute cancelings around a (straight) Pagan couple's wedding, with Christian business owners saying 'We don't serve your kind here.' And other last-minute cancellations.

It gets so that you don't want to patronize businesses that display Christian symbols and such: the Religious Right is turning them into symbols of hate and discrimination.

Maybe it's the haters who should have to say they're haters, so those of us who don't want to support those kinds of businesses will know. The way they're going, they'll be wanting *customers* to wear some kind of sign that you're a Christian Right-approved customer before doing any business with them, anyway.
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aviandonn
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10:16 AM on 07/11/2011
Do you know if there is a online listing of businesses that have been identified as discriminating against customers because of their beliefs or some other innocuous characteristic? It would be great to have one, since I think the very best way to deal with these types of businesses are boycotts. It's amazing how losing money can make a business owner re-evalutate and how often that reevaluation leads them to conclude that money trumps their so-called values.

Does anyone know of such a list?