Rick Warren's Carnival of Confession

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Posted August 20, 2008 | 02:46 PM (EST)



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The Washington pundits who brought us George W. Bush's presidency and the Iraq fiasco have reached a consensus that John McCain came across as "more presidential" at mega church pastor Rick Warren's faith forum. This conclusion is true if we are still defining "presidential" as a cocksure windbag who bonds with the common people by pandering to the lowest common denominator.

On cue, the media judged the candidates by how fun they'd be at a barbecue. McCain was lauded as a "commanding figure" while Obama was derided for coming across as "professorial." In today's politics, if you demonstrate your I.Q. your career may be through and a candidate can now admit having smoked marijuana, but not that he has experimented with arugula.

In 2000, the media gave Bush an easy ride because he was affable, but have learned nothing after his presidency turned out to be laughable. We watched Bush strut in his flight suit on an aircraft carrier with a gigantic banner claiming "Mission Accomplished." When it was clear that the mission had hardly begun, Bush thumped his chest and challenged the insurgents to "bring it on." Well, they obliged and now thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis are dead.

After nearly eight years of alienating the world with cowboy diplomacy, the media portrays Obama's tendency to be humble as a political stumble. Meanwhile, McCain talks tough to the Russians as they continue to rush into Georgia. At the forum, without hesitation he said he is going to defeat evil. But how does he plan to make good on his shallow sound bite with our military tied up in Iraq and our economy on the rocks?

Vladimir Putin has shrugged off the McCain crowd, essentially saying, "You and what army is going to stop us?" McCain must be acting like a galloping stallion because he knows of secret battalions that can be called on to defends the budding democracies in the Caucasus region.

At the forum, McCain also got a big hand by vowing to continue Bush's policy of ensuring that tycoons can live nearly tax free. Such economic policies combined with Republican deregulation have sold out our country and helped fuel the rise of China -- which not only has more gold medals, but owns much of America's gold. Perhaps, McCain remains so bubbly and blissfully unaware of the housing bubble because he has several million-dollar homes. Yet, the media still builds him up as the common man ready to storm the gates, even though he has more in common with Bill Gates.

Of course, the enablers of America's decline are Evangelical Christians who eschew their economic interests in favor of their bizarre moral fetishes. This penchant for the puritanical was exemplified by Warren's voyeuristic question asking each candidate, "What would be the greatest moral failure in your life."

Predictably, this carnival of confession and moral spectacle accomplished nothing and failed to reveal any juicy new "sins" that were not already on public record. Fresh from discussing the implosion of his marriage -- a huge biblical abomination -- McCain spoke out against gay people marrying. In the backdrop of this event was a low level controversy where Jonathan Crutchley, the co-founder of the gay cruising site Man Hunt, gave a $2,300 donation to McCain. This was odd, considering McCain reconfirmed at the forum that he favored Supreme Court judges who had cast votes to outlaw sodomy -- the very Man Hunt product that had made Crutchley rich.

Horrified, the other Man Hunt co-founder, Larry Basile, pressured Crutchley to resign as chairman of the company. While Crutchly has been reined in, a new Harris Poll shows that Obama has only 68-percent of the GLBT vote.

Sadly, 2008 is looking much like the last two elections, where a compliant media joins forces with chest thumping evangelicals and closeted homosexuals to further degrade America's greatness. If McCain is inaugurated, we will all be invited to the barbecue on his million-dollar Arizona ranch, blissfully unaware that our future is the roasting pig with a rotten apple sticking out of its bloated mouth.

Of course, the further we sink into irrelevancy, the more faith forums we will see -- even as the rest of the world loses faith in our ability to lead the world. While Rick Warren is an improvement over Focus on the Family's James Dobson, he must teach evangelicals there is a better way than the selfishness of modern conservatism, or it will go down as his biggest moral failure.

The Washington pundits who brought us George W. Bush's presidency and the Iraq fiasco have reached a consensus that John McCain came across as "more presidential" at mega church pastor Rick Warren's f...
The Washington pundits who brought us George W. Bush's presidency and the Iraq fiasco have reached a consensus that John McCain came across as "more presidential" at mega church pastor Rick Warren's f...
 
 

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- SevenSteps2Kevin See Profile I'm a Fan of SevenSteps2Kevin permalink

you shouldn't bother regarding the forum as neutral. I remember getting bombed with Pro-Bush fliers immediately after church services at Saddleback Church in the summer of 2000.

the church leadership there are unapologetic reuplican boosters. plain and simple. the church even has live video feeds of its services in nearby town movie theaters. its inconceivable that mccain couldn't have known the questions beforehand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 08/22/2008
- BADEN See Profile I'm a Fan of BADEN permalink

"Of course, the enablers of America's decline are Evangelical Christians who eschew their economic interests in favor of their bizarre moral fetishes. This penchant for the puritanical was exemplified by Warren's voyeuristic question asking each candidate, "What would be the greatest moral failure in your life.""

THANK YOU.

There is NO RELIGIOUS TEST for the POTUS.

I thought the best answer is "My moral failures are between me and God, I'm sure you understand."

This creepy little McCarthy "In the Lion's Den" was an excellent window for NORMAL Americans to see these "Elmer Gantry/Aimee McPhersons for what they really are : CON PEOPLE IN IT FOR THE BUCK.

ANYone can call their group "Evangelical" and get that precious 501c3.....And if they DO take on that little 501c3, THEY CANNOT ENGAGE IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 08/21/2008
- luvienne See Profile I'm a Fan of luvienne permalink

Why are these so called men of god sticking their nose in politics. I would never let a preacher tell me who to vote for. After all he is flesh and blood just like me. Not perfect, or necessarily having my best interest at heart. That's how people get drawn into cults. You have a mind .Use it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 08/20/2008
- JBoy See Profile I'm a Fan of JBoy permalink

You're right, Preachers shouldn't stick their noses in to politics. But this forum was an opportunity for Obama & McCain to introduce themselves to the Christian electorate. This was not a carnival to show America that Christianity is supreme. These candidates want evangelical votes. Its as simple as that. They both claim to be Christians, and they both want the evangelical vote. Let's not make this something that it isn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 08/21/2008
- MsEngineer See Profile I'm a Fan of MsEngineer permalink

I have a friend who is relatively intelligent but the only thing he cares about is gay marriage. My friend was brought up in a southern babtist church and he believes gay marriage is a sin. He also is afraid that Obama is a muslum. For those two reasons he will vote for McCain. Nothing else matters. It is so sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 08/20/2008
- jaglon See Profile I'm a Fan of jaglon permalink

I shut off this forum because it was completely out of place for a presidential race. I am anxious for a real debate between McCain and Obama. Let's hope that the questioners will leave these moral issues out of it though and ask the really tough questions.

It would not surprise me if McCain's handlers fed him Obama's responses to Warren's questions while he was supposedly closeted. This country is headed downhill fast, led by the people who only vote for the anti-abortion (this pro-life idea is bogus since most of these people could care less about the baby after it is born) canidate. This country is going broke because of republican policies and all these single issue voters care about is abortion. If you don't like abortion, don't have one but leave the rest of us out of it.

90% of republicans or people who vote republican are either ignorant or stupid or a mix of both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 08/20/2008
- jade7243 See Profile I'm a Fan of jade7243 permalink

Wayne: Send this to your friends in the media.

A very good take on the Saddleback fiasco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 08/20/2008
- southafrica4obama See Profile I'm a Fan of southafrica4obama permalink

good article

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 08/20/2008
- wheresthebeef See Profile I'm a Fan of wheresthebeef permalink

Who was it who said that one could never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public? P.T. Barnum? To hell with the economy, IRAQ, global warming, dependence on foreign oil and all the other pressing issues we're facing. If the next President doesn't make repairing our ruptured educational system his top priority, we're doomed, I tell you, doomed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 08/20/2008
- Skepticat See Profile I'm a Fan of Skepticat permalink

Wheresthebeef
No one going broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public - was one of many excellent quotes from H L Mencken "The sage of Baltimore" - recommended reading for the jaundiced voter along with Ambrose Bierce & Mark Twain.
P T Barnum said " There's a sucker born every minute" - and no doubt would have agreed with Mencken

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 08/20/2008
- hopeless277 See Profile I'm a Fan of hopeless277 permalink

Best ever campaign advice: Never trust a fat preacher.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 08/20/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

The more unthinking one is the more easier it is to get elected in modern America. Like in ancient Rome, thoughfulness and humilty are equated with weakness. Those near the bottom support Republican policies of tax cuts for the wealthy. Belligerency in foreign policy is esteemed. The people want someone who talks tough even after Bush's useless wars. It is really an Alice In Wonderland world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 08/20/2008
- leftcoastindy See Profile I'm a Fan of leftcoastindy permalink

Evangelicals have no desire to learn ANYTHING. They already went to Sunday School or listened to Rush and Sean. They don't need to find out how to 'get saved' from evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 08/20/2008
- JBoy See Profile I'm a Fan of JBoy permalink

If Obama is evangelical , as he claims to be, I think you just slammed him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 08/21/2008
- Damnstraight See Profile I'm a Fan of Damnstraight permalink

Yeah rick warren is some improvement over others but he or any other minister should not be empowered as a kingmaker. Yes democrats can convey a message that will reach some evangelicals but it does'nt have to be funneled through one guy or ministry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 08/20/2008
- JBoy See Profile I'm a Fan of JBoy permalink

Call him a kingmaker if you like, but nobody forced Obama or McCain to attend this forum. They each participated willingly so that Christians could learn more about them. I believe Saddleback was agreed upon by both candidates because of its large capacity and apparently both candidates are familiar with Rick Warren. For Obama, it was his chance to go after evangelical votes, just like McCain. This was only funneled through Saddlebak as the best way to reach a mass audience IMO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 08/21/2008
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