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Another Casualty of the Chick-fil-A Saga

Posted: 07/30/2012 6:48 pm

Donald Perry VP of Corporate Relations at Chick-fil-A suddenly died of a heart attack amid the controversy of calls to boycott the restaurant due to the religious beliefs of their CEO and President Dan Cathy. Mr. Perry had been embroiled in the controversy about Mr. Cathy's personal beliefs about gay marriage. This is not only about the personal beliefs of President Cathy; this has everything to do with our freedoms. The boycott may wane but the political issues and attack on personal and religious beliefs will live on.

Chick-fil-A didn't hang out a shingle announcing the views of the CEO; there was no denial of service to anyone; no hiring discrimination based on sexual orientation. Most people go there for chicken, no lesson in morality or religion, nothing more.

This popular restaurant that serves great chicken has been chastised and quite literally run out of town because of religious beliefs.

Chick-fil-A was told to stay out of Chicago by Rahm Emanuel who said, "Chick-fil-A's values are not Chicago values. They're not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you're gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values."

What are those values that businesses must comply with to meet that definition? Do people need to check their personal beliefs at the door to the city? And is there going to be a morality test in Chicago to pick and choose businesses based upon religion, national origin, or any of our protected classes? Will they conduct an audit of existing businesses to make sure they comply as well?

And in Boston, Mayor Thomas Menino announced Chick-fil-A doesn't belong there. It makes you wonder how far and wide this goes and what other businesses don't belong there. Menino has walked back his comments realizing that he did not have that power. But after the chicken is out of the coop, it's tough to get it back.

The power of our elected officials has eroded to the level of skimming our coveted First Amendment rights of freedom of speech, religion, and expression. We wonder what is next, banning of Muslims from doing business in Detroit, Jews doing business in Utah? What about Chinese restaurants? Does the city agree with their religious and political philosophies?

My philosophy is that we all have different views and convictions; live with it. Last year, President Obama held the same opinion as the president of Chick-fil-A. We have the ability to patronize who we want and who we don't, so be it. Boycott them if you want, but we all enjoy our freedoms and that includes the ability to purchase a darn good chicken sandwich if we wish to do so.

This is a sad casualty of a new trend of erosion of our freedoms. There is a troublesome focus on "broad brush" and sweeping power of some elected officials. We elect individuals to represent the views of their electorate... or not. Can they act on their personal views to the point that businesses are prohibited from doing businesses within their purview? We need be assured that the political wind doesn't blow too far away from the public. But I realize that we live by sound Constitutional principles. After all, our elected officials swear to uphold that very critical document.

The Muppets have even made the scene, severing ties with Chick-fil-A. They have said "What would Kermit do?" That is certainly their right but they have taken it to a level that mocks our freedoms. "Don't mess with the Muppets. You'll end up looking like a fool." But using character puppets for Heaven's sake, to joke and speak out against constitutionally protected rights on either side of that coin, sorry, not appropriately a laughing matter. And who is Kermit to make a fool out of anyone?

Potential Green Party presidential candidate Roseanne Barr tweeted: "Anyone who eats S*** Fil-A deserves to get cancer that is sure to come from eating antibiotic filled tortured chickens 4Christ." She tried to walk it back but as we know, that chicken has left the coop. The message was received, enough said.

This matter is much larger than Chick-fil-A; the purchasing public has a short memory but this speaks volumes about our freedoms. Most of us believe in the philosophy of live and let live. Some believe, if you don't agree with me you should not exist.

Let's not erode our rights that we hold so dearly. Even the ACLU recognized that Chick-fil-A has a right to do business. And rest in peace Mr. Perry. You personally did not ask for this fight.

 
 
 
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u s e r
Micro-bios are for microbes
10:12 PM on 08/13/2012
I can't understand why Christians are offended and won't patronize my anti-Christian business.
I hire Christians, but I don't approve of their lifestyle ...and I donate to anti-Christian causes, that promise to legislate away their rights.

I mean, what's the big deal, right?
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Paul Robertson
01:57 AM on 08/06/2012
I agree that denying C-f-A government approvals on ideological grounds is an abuse of power. But you're wrong in painting this controversy as being about Cathy's statements and beliefs. At the end of the day, Dan Cathy is just one man and his beliefs are of no particular account. But when a corporation donates millions of dollars to hate groups then that is a matter of public concern that should not be simply shrugged off as a matter of one man's religion.
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06:59 AM on 08/06/2012
Noting that Corporations are now we the people, you hit it on the money.
yesiamaconservative
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11:29 PM on 08/06/2012
By definition, you libs. label anyone who opposes you a "hate group" ...
03:27 PM on 08/03/2012
Ms. Powell: I believe you have missed the entire message about the boycott. In fact, the boycott is exactly the expression of freedom that you are so intent on keeping alive. No one forced Mr. Cathy to express his views in public, but once he did, it is the right of every paying customer to choose not to buy their product due to those views should they feel inclined.

I am further offended by your characterization of President Obama's views on gay rights. He has NEVER opposed the equal treatment of gay citizens. The fact that he specifically came out for gay marriage earlier this year was not a change in his position but an extra step in the direction he was already facing regarding gay rights. The idea that he would ever feel the extreme position that Mr. Cathy expressed is ludicrous.

The fact that Chi-Fil-A's freedom of speech rights have not been violated in any way (seeing as how no one has stopped them from doing business due to their views and that no matter what politicians may say, they cannot legally keep them out of any location where they would've been allowed before) seems to have escaped you. If heads of corporations or anyone in the public eye continue to make their views on controversial issues known they should expect that the public will answer with their own views, which may result in the loss of business. That is true freedom.
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Wendy N. Powell
04:33 PM on 08/03/2012
Barack. Obama was opposed to gay marriage a year ago and very publicly stated that. I did not say that he was anti-gay, nor am I . True freedom is not to tell a business that they should stay out of their cities because of the opinions of the CEO.
03:52 PM on 08/13/2012
Maybe you need to hear it from the horses mouth (I mean Obamas mouth). Sounds like he flip flopped for votes to me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhaThnPWB0A&feature=player_embedded You will find that most conservatives (like myself) are not anti-gay rights as you hear on your news networks. We are anti-gay MARRIAGE. If you can't see the difference, you will never get it.
u s e r
Micro-bios are for microbes
08:22 AM on 08/02/2012
Wendy: "That felt a lot like thinking! Now sit there quietly while I trample your rights. I already have mine."

Heteros: "The mean nasty, people want me to share my rights. That's so unfair. Thankfully Wendy has voiced my haf-inteliigent views."

James Madison: "The rights of the minority shall not be subject to the tyrrany of the majority."
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Wendy N. Powell
02:37 PM on 08/02/2012
User:

At the end of the day, we do this to share our thoughts and hear views that are different, not to participate in name calling and criticisms. At least most of us do not. We can learn from professional dialog but personal insults that you have done are really not in keeping with the spirit of formative thought. The effect is to dig in our heels and solitify our opinions. In other words, "trampling of rights" is not why we collectively participate in this type of dialog.
u s e r
Micro-bios are for microbes
08:16 PM on 08/02/2012
Read your James Madison.
Despite the current, dire cultural urge to wallow in them, feelings (about capitalism and democracy) are still not as powerful as facts.
01:03 AM on 08/02/2012
I'm an atheist, and I support Chick-fil-A. The idea of "gay marriage" is actually an oxymoron.
u s e r
Micro-bios are for microbes
08:26 AM on 08/02/2012
Good for you. You're still incapable of thought.
01:41 PM on 08/02/2012
Ahhh ... to be 14 again ...
03:35 PM on 08/03/2012
I don't think the word oxymoron means what you think it means.
01:42 PM on 08/01/2012
Chik-Fil-A uses their profits to donate to anti-gay causes. The company gives $2 million a year to anti-gay organizations. That isn't a neutral stance. People have the right to vote with their dollars. Dan Cathy votes with Chik-Fil-A's dollars by supporting anti-gay organizations. I would prefer that my money not go causes that harm me and my wife. Asking gay people to get over it and agree to funnel their money to anti-gay causes is pretty absurd.
02:23 PM on 08/01/2012
Exactly, which is why no group that gives money to PP will get another dollar of mine. That doesn't mean I go around calling them baby killers all over the internet.
08:50 PM on 08/01/2012
Good, I will keep buying at Chick Fil A now more than ever...
09:14 AM on 08/01/2012
I take umbrage when the media uses the oxymoron "gay marriage". There is no such thing. Marriage by its definition, denotation and conotation is between a male and a female. A new term needs to be employed by the media. The media need to stop using a phrase that makes no sense.

I believe that homosexuals and lesbians are guaranteed the right to formalize their relationships AS IF they were in fact, married. I believe the US Constitution gives them that right (life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness). But, they can not call their formalized relationships "marriages".

In my blog, I use the term "pairrage". This to me, makes a great deal of sense. In one word it indicates a formalized union between partners of the same sex. Two of the same kind is a pair. So, If you want to be "parried" and have the same rights as if you were a married couple, I think should be able to do that. But you should not refer to your relationship as a marriage. It is a parraige.
05:07 PM on 08/01/2012
"Marriage by its definition, denotation and conotation is between a male and a female."

Here's a news flash for you: English is a living language. That means it is susceptible to change. So that may be the definition of marriage today. 20 years from now, that definition can, and likely will, change. I'd suggest you accept this fact instead of living in denial.
10:22 PM on 08/01/2012
Denial? I don't think so. Clearly my meaning is PRESENTLY, the use of marriage, as it is defined, does not apply. So, buz-in-IA, devote some energy to changing the definition or coming up with a new one. But, I don't think that even in 20 years it will mean anything other than what it does now. I do however, think it won't take 20 years for same sex relationships to be allowed in all 50 states.
01:12 AM on 08/02/2012
As you are undoubtedly aware, the state grants marriage benefits for a very important reason — the possibility of children and the optimal environment for child rearing.  Gay and lesbian couples are biologically capable of neither.

We need to be very careful when considering a designation (such as "domestic partnerships") that grants the same benefits as marriage.  Federal Judge Reinhardt's ruling in Perry v. Brown (2012) revealed that such domestic partnership laws are a Trojan horse for changing the definition of marriage.

When there is no difference between domestic partnership benefits and marriage benefits, then there is no longer a "rational basis" for the state to deny the label of "marriage" to describe homosexual unions.
04:03 PM on 08/02/2012
So, infertile couples should be forced to divorce? I'd like to know since my husband and I can't have kids. Besides, what's wrong with redefining marriage? I'd like to see it redefined away from two people being represented by one, which is usually the male.
u s e r
Micro-bios are for microbes
02:26 AM on 08/01/2012
Who was the first casualty, by the way? Since your headline says "Another casualty?"
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Wendy N. Powell
10:46 AM on 08/01/2012
Hi User, The first casualty was the idea that the right to do business without checking convictions with the government to make sure they agree with your thoughts.
12:28 PM on 08/01/2012
Wendy,

I don't think many people (if any) are boycotting or flexing their alderman privileges (municipalaties, not "the government") because of someones convictions and exercising of their first amendment rights. They are doing these thing because of $2,000,000 worth of net working capital spent on hate groups whose only job is to hinder minorities' civil rights to marry the people that they love. For you to say that they are being "driven out of town" just because of their religious beliefs is incredibly dishonest. We don't don't in a theocracy, CFA doesn't understand this and clearly neither do you.
02:10 AM on 08/01/2012
I am from Boston and I am proud of my mayor.

It is easy to say that you have nothing to do with how a company spends your money or a company's value does not effect you. It is easier to simply brush it of like that. However, I do not use HSBC because of their less than enthusiastic effort to prevent money laundry. I do not shop at Walmart because of the way they treat their employees. Of course these values and practices from these companies have nothing to do with me, but as people say: every time you spend money, you just cast a vote on what kind of world you want to live in. If no one stands up for the right thing, things that do not concern them, then I don't think humanity has any chance on surviving. Sure, it is the opinion of a CEO, but he knows that his voice must be heard given his social and business position. It is a hateful message that was sent to people that they are doing something wrong by loving someone. If no one ever stand up against this chicken chain what is next? CEO of Wendy's supports wars? CEO of KFC supports rapes? If a hateful opinion voiced in public should not have any consequences, we are living in a very scary world.
05:18 PM on 08/01/2012
You don't seem to understand what the issue is here. It is fine and legal for your mayor to express his personal opinion. And, sure, you can be proud of that personal opinion and vote for him in the future because you agree with him. It is also fine for citizens of this country or other companies, such as The Muppets to pull their business. That is all fine and dandy. It is a problem, however, when a government official threatens to use his power to punish people he disagrees with. That is an abuse of power and it is indeed unconstitutional. It is a violation of the First Amendment.

Let me see if I can explain this more simply: people have the legal right to shun speech from others that they disagree with; governments do not. Your mayor can legally express his opinion as a citizen (and I stress that word) of Boston, but he cannot use the power of his office to do so, which would include official declarations from his office.
04:05 AM on 08/02/2012
I don't think there is any doubt there that the mayor of Boston has no authority to ban the chicken joint, as the article stated. " Menino has walked back his comments realizing that he did not have that power." The problem I had with this article is simply the undertone message saying that we should leave Chick-fil-A alone. The author also criticizes the Muppets and their choice to separate themselves from Chick-fil-A, which as you said, that is their right. I do agree with you and understand that we live in a country where there is a protection for freedom of speech and government units abusing their power by banning a company based on belief is not acceptable. Luckily we do have the law prohibiting government agencies doing so. My problem with this article is that it belittle the problem of the anti gay marriage movement, something that does effect and hurt a lot of people deeply.
11:56 PM on 07/31/2012
But bottom line, I aver, is that I just don't understand why you'd punish innocent, hard-working *multitude* of employees who clearly need their jobs in the sad economical state this country's in just to *nominally* punish the handful of upper-management who've stood behind those principles?

And for the record, I'm a bisexual woman in my second marriage. But I still feel no need to "boycott" them for simply disagreeing with me, my lifestyle, and my past. ,')
05:01 PM on 08/01/2012
First of all, bringing "hard-working *multitude* of employees" into this seems like an excuse to support bigotry. (And, no, I don't care if you are actually bisexual or not. That doesn't give your opinion more credibility.)
Second, this can be a zero-sum game. People who boycott Chick-fil-A can, for example, can take their business to Subway, McDonalds, Taco Bell, maybe a locally-owned restaurant, etc, etc. Boycotting Chick-fil-A doesn't equate to boycotting fast-food (or "slow" food) everywhere. That can go for boycotting any type of store. CEO of an electronic store upset you? Take your business to their competitor. In short, there doesn't need to be a loss of economic flow with a boycott like you imply.
11:32 PM on 09/19/2012
buz-in-IA: I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. What denies me credibility? That I'm not willing to deny others their opinions? Or is that I'm bisexual but aren't whinging about nawty Chik's mean ol' opinion?

Let me see ... I can sit here and talk about how I'm bisexual, but they don't have the right to talk about how they're heterosexual? I can talk about how I'm an atheist, but they can't talk about how they're Christian? I can talk about how I like my relationships consisting of multiples, but "God" forbid they should talk about theirs consisting of two people? What the bloody hell is THAT?! In my native country, we call that a double-standard. Actually, no, we call that stupid.

But do please have fun boycotting a business on the behalf of many people with alternative lifestyles who largely don't give a bloody crap in the first place. :)
11:56 PM on 07/31/2012
Perhaps as a transplanted Brit, I don't understand what the fuss is about. What the bloody hell does his, her or it's religion have to do with the company's product?

Here's something to think about: once you fork the money over and receive an item in return its no longer *your* money. Your connection to said funds is now OVER. If the bloke (or company) choose to spend it on hookers, livestock or what-have-you, its got nothing to do with you. But most likely, the majority of the money is going to payroll (employees who likely NEED those jobs), inventory and overhead.

I think part of the disconnect I feel to the bruhaha is the fact that I see life as being too bloody short to worry about where some bloke might spend the profits he's earned. I don't have the bloody time to research every company I patronise or product I buy to discern where those profits go (though it's nice that you've got that kind of free time). Perhaps it's also a tad that I, myself, wouldn't enjoy the scrutiny paid to the purchases *I* make with my earnings.

But mainly, I think it's bloody nosy of you all to concern yourselves so overmuchly with this tripe. Its ridiculous. But what the hell ~ since we're all scrutinising what those blokes do with their funds, what do YOU spend your money on? Unless you'd appreciate a critical eye on YOUR purchases, I'd avoid critising others.
yesiamaconservative
waiting for an intelligent reply ...
12:09 AM on 08/07/2012
immediately apply for citizenship if your are interested ... you could be put to front of the line ... sadly you get it more that the LIBERALS do here in the US ... proud to be your 1st fan ...
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lackofoversight
GOP --- Greed Over People
11:28 PM on 07/31/2012
Ms. Powell is whining that Mr. Cathy is being punished for his religious beliefs -- all the while conveniently overlooking the fact that he uses his chicken profits to support organizations that actively work to deny gay and lesbians in our society their civil rights. It's one thing to have the right to hold and express your beliefs. It's quite another to actively work to deny others of their rights.
u s e r
Micro-bios are for microbes
02:28 AM on 08/01/2012
Yes, some nebulous claim of a psychological toll, in her mind, is a far greater infraction than the corrupt Christian dollars actually warping the system against gay people.
12:32 AM on 08/02/2012
The critical point here is that Mr. Cathy's company is being punished BY THE GOVERNMENT for exercising his freedom of expression. That's censoring his free speech. Should the government be entitled to punish those who support GLAAD or other gay-rights organizations? When it comes to 1st Amendment rights, donating to one non-profit organization is the same as donating to another one. Saying you support traditional marriage is every bit as protected under the Constitution as saying you support gay marriage. Do you really want to be denied that protection? It's hypocritical to turn around and deny it to someone else.
09:18 PM on 07/31/2012
The majority of people posting on this blog are not thinking. What does the company's leaders views on marriage is between a man and a woman have to do with business. They already said they hire gays, and serve them without any problem. With the economy the way it is in shambles, why on earth would you want to boycott any business that is probably in every state, not only serving the public well, but EMPLOYING WORKERS. Do you just want to see if the unemployment rate goes up quicker, or how many more forclosures we can get because people loose their jobs, and security at a time when America NEEDS SMALL BUSINESS MORE THAN EVER. Look what would have happened if the far left had gotten their way on attempting to boycott Fox News, and all conservative talk radio. You are loosing your freedoms as Americans rapidly, and all you think about is who you can protest next. Think about the people in the business you are protesting, not yourself.
01:46 PM on 08/01/2012
The leader's views on marriage and the fact that he donates the COMPANY'S money to anti-gay causes are why Chik-Fil-A is being called out.
08:24 PM on 08/01/2012
He has freedom of religon, and I believe his Christan Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. I don't have a problem with gender, however you or no one else has the right to tell the company leaders what they can or cannot believe in. By the way the freedom of speech that is rapidly slipping away from Americans, also gave him the right to express his personal views in an interview. Would you rather be in a Socialist country where they would have jailed him for his beliefs? Or in Islam where homosexuals are killed? All he said was he stood with the belief that "Marriage is between a man and a woman." I have not seen any gay couples repopulating the earth. Think about who is stirring up these problems 4 mts before elections. Just like all the racist calling, and bashing.
05:25 PM on 08/01/2012
"The majority of people posting on this blog are not thinking."

Including you. As I explained to someone else, boycotting Chick-fil-A does not equate to boycotting fast food altogether. If I had been a regular customer of Chick-fil-A and decided to boycott, I could take my business to a competitor. There doesn't need to be a stoppage of economic flow because of this...especially since this deals with food! People have to eat, so they have to go somewhere else (even if it is to the grocery store so they can make meals at home). And Chick-fil-A is a small business??? Please! Now you're just being silly.
08:12 PM on 08/01/2012
Anytime you boycott, or try to have people boycott a business it suffers, you cannot tell to what degree it will. With the number of people unemployed in America do you really think the workers there are not worried? And If you don't want to call this a small business, at least be wise enough to know at one time it was. It grew and employed more and more people. Think back to the first McDonald's. What was it a quarter for a hamburger, fries, and soda. After seeing the news today 8/1/2012 on Chick-fil-A appreciation Day, with multiple posting of The Chains to overflowing, and waits sometimes a hour to a mile long all around the country I rest my case. If you can't find the pictures on any liberal media, try www.gbtv.com--it's free for two weeks. We don't need to threaten business, we need to encourage growth. Keep minority affairs out of it.
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08:53 PM on 07/31/2012
Miss Wendy--you are right about everyone having their personal religions, opinions, and such protected. But when you have a business this big, and your income and welfare of your employers makes such pathetic remarks public, don't whine and cry when customers who don't hold your views walk away.
It would have been more appropriate to keep that to himself and a close circle of like minded people.
If you haven't noticed, our world is evolving and most citizens don't like seeing others put down because narrow minded people who still live in the past and feel threatened by evolution.
Do you own Chick-fil-A stock?
11:33 PM on 07/31/2012
You are right. Home Depot, Starbucks, and General Mills to name a few should also keep their views to themselves. Most citizens do not like seeing others attack people who believe in marriage and put others down because narrow minded people who feel threatened by traditional families put that before some social experiment. Do you own Home Depot, GM or Starbucks stock?
07:50 PM on 07/31/2012
The Jim Henson company has every bit as much a free-speech right to dissociate its intellectual property, aka the Muppets, from Chick-Fil-A as Mr. Cathy has a right to personally state his opposition to same-sex marriage. Ms. Powell's casual inclusion of the Muppets in this argument betrays her political bent. And spare us the faux outrage that politicians would act like politicians (gasp!).