The OTHER Big Problem With Hillary's Notorious Remarks

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Hillary Clinton: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."

What a remarkably wrong-headed paragraph. The formerly inevitable Clinton got into obvious trouble for her assassination comment. (And is now trying desperately to spin her way out. Lotsa luck.) But the sentence before it is totally wrong as well, as I can tell you that the Clintons knew that they would have no trouble in the 1992 California primary.

In May 1992, I passed on a message to Bill Clinton's national campaign chairman, Los Angeles attorney Mickey Kantor, who later held two Cabinet posts in the Clinton Administration. The message? That Jerry Brown, the former California governor who emerged as Clinton's most persistent opponent, would run no TV ads in the California primary and would pull back from the sharp attacks he'd been leveling on the frontrunner.

The primary was not "in the middle of June," as Hillary said in the first part of her gross misstatement about it. It was on the first Tuesday in June, as it had been for decades to that point, on June 2nd. Clinton was way ahead in the race. There was no suspense about him getting the nomination. And Brown's decision not to run TV ads in California -- he had plenty of money for that -- and to refrain from the harsh attacks that had marked his campaign to that point made it very clear that the fight was over.

Brown had made plenty of trouble for Clinton, coming out of the pack to end up as the rather distant runner-up for the Democratic presidential nomination. Running against political corruption, the former two-term governor of California won several big primary and caucus victories over Clinton. Accepting no contribution over $100, in this pre-Internet campaign Brown used an earlier form of interactive technology and funded his run with an 800 number, mentioning the number so often that then NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, a family friend, tried to cut him off during a TV appearance.

Brown's surge against Clinton halted after a fake drug scandal broke on ABC. There was nothing actually there -- one key source who appeared on Nightline later admitted that the Brown fundraiser he dramatically said he'd attended where drug-taking took place was a big Eagles concert in the 1970s where some fans smoked marijuana -- but the information provided to the network was packaged cleverly enough to produce a lot of short-term smoke. As it were. Funny how such things happen not infrequently around Bill and Hill's campaigns.

With Brown deciding to run no TV ads, and pulling back from his sharp attacks on Clinton, the way was made absolutely clear for Bill Clinton to finish first in the California primary and begin consolidating his role as the nominee of the Democratic Party.

The night of the California primary, I stayed at the Hollywood Hills home of Brown's sister, Kathleen Brown, then the California state treasurer, and her husband, former CBS News president Van Gordon Sauter. Jerry Brown stayed there, too.

Distressingly early on the morning after the California primary, there was a knock on my door. Jerry Brown rushed into the room, reporting that somebody had called for me. He was much more interested, naturally, in talking about his campaign than in delivering a phone message. I'm not sure I ever found out who had called.

He was in very good spirits. Primary day had gone as he planned, as he piled up more delegates to make a showing at the convention in New York. And Clinton allies like then Democratic national chairman Ron Brown could no longer accuse him of trying to embarrass Clinton as the primary season concluded.

I told Brown that Warren Beatty had called asking for his number. Beatty wanted to play an intermediary role in working out more of a peace agreement between the Clinton and Brown camps.

That never did get worked out, as the Clintons deeply resented Brown for being the first political figure to attack them on what later became known as Whitewater. And his gibes about Clinton golfing with fat cats -- in particular, Hillary's law partner, Webster Hubbell -- as preparations were made for the Clinton-approved execution of a brain-damaged black man during a bad patch in his presidential campaign particularly stung the future first lady.

Now Brown is the very popular attorney general of California, using his office to aggressively pursue remedies to climate change.

And Hillary Clinton? As her campaign winds down, reduced to making bizarre references to political assassination and pretending that she doesn't know any of what you have just read.

Jerry Brown, incidentally, who won a 19-point landslide election as California attorney general in 2006 -- he ran many millions of dollars worth of TV ads in that race -- met with Bill and Hillary Clinton and with Barack Obama early in this campaign cycle. Pondering a return to the governorship in 2010, he is uncommitted in the race.

 
 

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- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

Bradley continues to say if the caucus results are include Ms. CLinton will not have the majority of the popular vote. Real Clear POlitics figures do not agree.
17,596,239- Obama
17,650,671- Clinton. These figures include the caucus states. So, Bar, it seems your thinking is a bit wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 05/27/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 06/02/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

Oh, incidentally, the OTHER part of your disinformation is that the figure you cite includes contests all candidates, including Clinton at the time, agreed were not legitimate. And it does not include all the contests that all candidates said are legitimate, i.e., the caucus states.

In a few weeks, if you are not a Republican, you won't waste time like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 05/28/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

Again, you are incorrect. The caucus states are, in fact, included in this figure. Yes, the vote totals from Mich and Fla are included, but should be included. Especially Florida. Consider this, in 2012 35 states have GOP-controlled state legislatures and a GOP governor. Each moves their primary outside the DNC parameters. Following your thinking each of the 35 would be disallowed, thus making the selection in 2012 a task completed by only 15 states. Would that make sense or be fair or wise? Not at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 05/28/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

You know, you really don't get to distort things here. That does not include all the caucus states.

In a few weeks, if you are a Democrat, you won't be trying to spread misinformation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 05/28/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

You have done enough distortion in your replies to me for a hundred pundits. Which makes it Rovian for you to attack me for something you have done, but I have not done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/28/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

Given your desire to see presidential candidates held to account for the words they use why have you given Obama a free pass? He claimed his grandfather was in the army responsible for the liberation of Auschwitz, which seems quite unlikely. The Soviet army liberated Auschwitz, was Obama's grandfather a Russian? And where is your outrage over Obama's exploitation of the Holocaust? I imagine your outrage against Obama will not be forthcoming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 05/27/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

Obama confused Auschwitz with Buchenwald.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 05/28/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

I know. And I misstated, it was his great uncle. He said it was an uncle and Auschwitz, not Buchenwald. If Ms. Clinton is to be taken to task for a historically accurate statement about the length of primary campaigns why have you failed to take Obama to task for a comment that is far worse? Could it be your anti-Clinton bias is so prevalent you cannot say anything honest about your candidate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 05/28/2008
- jdkjdk See Profile I'm a Fan of jdkjdk permalink

Jerry Brown for VP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 05/27/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

Actually, I believe Jerry Brown intends to be Governor of California. Again. The state's term limits law does not apply to him. So, if elected as expected, he would be the second person, after Earl Warren, to win a third term as governor, and the first to serve out that term -- Warren having departed to take up Ike's appointment as Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 05/28/2008
- lthuedk_1 See Profile I'm a Fan of lthuedk_1 permalink

Are DLC'ers still Democrats or have they morphed into supporters of militant globalism with or without knowing it? Their blind loyalty to the Corporate Candidate is stunningly Republicanesque; their herding instinct seems at least as strong as any hard core Freeper Republican's. What ever happened to the facile, independent thinking Democrat? Are they past the point of no return? Do their pupils even dilate?

It does not matter which ideologue(s) one picks, McCain or Two Heads. Corporate and it's military would continue to be the boss, as it has been under Bush. It sounds harsh, but the Clintons are part of enabling such a beast.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/Freedom_of_Choice.html

DLC supporters thinking Clinton will substantially alter the globalism that is killing our quality of life, may have been asleep, or deluded, in deep denial, or latent Republicans. Do Clinton supporters truly believe the 14 megabase insurgent magnets located throughout Iraq or the justification for occupation will ever be abandoned? Do they think Clinton is not a corporate mole intent on keeping us in there? Do they even want the bleeding to stop? Can they possibly comprehend that it's not at all about the women's movement-which I ardently support-but about character?.

Finally, do supporters actually believe Two Heads will not pardon Junior, or Cheney, or the Neo Con subversives? Think again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 05/27/2008
- lthuedk_1 See Profile I'm a Fan of lthuedk_1 permalink


http://www.light-to-dark.com/Freedom_of_Choice.html

The DLC ( Democrats Loving Corporate ), is not good for the Party or America. We've already got one dandy of a Republican Party desecrating the country and will of the people. Much too much national socialist coddling for a country needing to find it's way back to a true democracy founded by and for the people.

I hope Clinton loyalists use the time before Nov. to get acquainted with their search engines and discover the true identity of their candidate(s). Got inquisitiveness, intellect, courage, and common sense? All Liberal values for sure. Now show us the real Democrat hiding inside.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/Baby_Billary.html

Then respectfully, would they please pull their heads out of the sand? The farthest right supports Hillary. Why is that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 05/27/2008
- CaptainObvious See Profile I'm a Fan of CaptainObvious permalink

This is precisely the reason she shouldn't be on the ticket, and precisely the reason that John Edwards should be. We don't want a VP candidate who is secretly hoping that our next president gets assassinated, so that she can assume the role. We want to choose a candidate for VP that represents the same values as Obama does, and one that the corporate fascists actually want LESS than Obama.

This is the exact situation that Bush/Cheney has placed the left in for the past 7 1/2 years: who wants to assassinate bush, when we'll just end up with cheney? That's like jumping from the frying pan and into the fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 05/27/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

No one should want to assassinate anybody.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/27/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

Ms. Clinton did not say anything about harm coming to Obama, that is the misinterpretation of Obama supporters. And it shows the hypocrisy of Obama and the MSM. Not much was said when David Axelrod, Obama's political guru, blamed Ms. Clinton for the assassination of Pakistan's Benazir Bhutto. Obama and his supporters are hypocrites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/27/2008
- MelArawak See Profile I'm a Fan of MelArawak permalink


Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton think we have short memory. When she loses she tears up like a girl and talks about the glass ceiling (and fails to mention the advantages of being rich, white, and the wife of a former President). When she wins she dons the boxing gloves, acts like a hybrid Sylvester Stallone (Rocky) and Annie Oakley, tosses back a shot of (Canadian) whiskey and struts her stuff. When Senator Obama team pointed out inequities was it not Hillary Clinton who ran an ad: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". If Senator Obama runs such an ad he would be called sexist. If Senator Obama walked around with gloves saying he would knockout a white woman - he would be classified as the typical black male stereotype. He has proven himself smarter, more disciplined, and had had the good sense to stay above the fray. Of course he has won when it matters: the most pledged delegates, superdelegates, states (33), and has been better at fundraising and registering new voters. This is what a winning strategy looks like and Senator Clinton needs to rise to the ocassion and acknowledge that she came close but, in the end, Senator Obama has won. Yes, he has, fair and square.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 05/27/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

I think the Clintons are quite disbelieving about what has happened to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/27/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

I read your profile and it does not mention you are a shrink, so you cannot know what the Clintons believe or disbelieve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 05/27/2008
- Bluebloodsbastardson See Profile I'm a Fan of Bluebloodsbastardson permalink

"Karma's a bitch!!" Vince Foster

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/27/2008
- TheKnownTruth See Profile I'm a Fan of TheKnownTruth permalink

She LIED again. She did NOT apologize. It is this behavior we do not need in a President..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 AM on 05/27/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

She did apologize. Granted, you would not know that from reading HuffPo. Perhaps you opwe it to yourself to read a newspaper. Maybe the Jerusalem Post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 05/28/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

You've made about 30 comments on this post on my blog. All pushing a consistently false line of attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 06/02/2008
- CrankyCurmudgeon See Profile I'm a Fan of CrankyCurmudgeon permalink

Timing is everything. Is it conceivable Rove learned his ruthless tactics from the Clintons?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 05/27/2008
- Daisy1111 See Profile I'm a Fan of Daisy1111 permalink


What do the Democrats gain by crucifying Hillary for this remark?

Tell me.

How does the crucifixion of Hillary serve Obama this late in the game.

Is that a wise General Election strategy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 05/26/2008
- William Bradley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of William Bradley permalink

I'm not "crucifying" Hillary. I'm correcting her grave distortion of political history and serious misstatement of the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/27/2008
- BubbaC33 See Profile I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 permalink

She did not distort the history of politics, that is far fetched and a lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 05/27/2008
- lthuedk_1 See Profile I'm a Fan of lthuedk_1 permalink

Someone has to at least attempt to reach our misled brothers and sisters. This is not a crucifixion but a time to learn.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/Freedom_of_Choice.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 05/27/2008
- bigbingtheory See Profile I'm a Fan of bigbingtheory permalink

What do Democrats gain from allowing a presidential candidate to make insensitive remarks? Why, as Democrats, should we allow one of our on to act like the worst kind of Republican? And why on earth do some conttinue to defend the indefensable? This is no crucifixion. This is having principles and standards we want our representatives to uphold. We wouldn't accept John McCain making remarks like this and we won't allow one of our own to either. She said. She failed to apologize. She is not living up to our standards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 05/27/2008
- MadelineL See Profile I'm a Fan of MadelineL permalink

Should we erase and ignore all the parts of history that are ugly? No. I didn't think so.