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Time to Reach Out to North Korea

Posted: 12/21/11 04:50 PM ET

In the proliferation of punditry that has accompanied the death of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, much has been said about the prospects for a chaotic transition, and even about the need to prepare for military action in case his son, Kim Jong Un, engages in saber-rattling (or worse) to "prove" himself to Pyongyang's military leadership.

It's too early to tell how smooth North Korea's change in leadership will be, but if past history is any guide, U.S. policy would be best served by preparing for a new round of diplomacy, not a new round of hostilities. Prior to his death, Kim Jong Il had offered to stop uranium enrichment in exchange for food aid, and to observe a moratorium on nuclear and missile tests during renewed talks on its nuclear program. As Leon V. Sigal has noted in a piece for the National Interest, "The prudent course would be to resume negotiations soon and test whether Kim Jong-un is ready to follow his father's lead and suspend his nuclear and missile programs."

This isn't the first time the United States has faced this predicament. When Kim Jong Il's father Kim Il Sung died in 1994, he and the U.S. were in the midst of negotiating the 1994 Agreed Framework. Negotiationsresumed within a month of Kim Il Sung's death, and the resulting deal delayed North Korea's nuclear weapons and missile programs for years until the Bush administration cut off negotiations early in its first term. The abandonment of the talks was driven by neo-conservatives in Bush's inner circle, in opposition to Secretary of State Colin Powell's argument that they should be continued. The result of this alleged "get tough" policy was an acceleration of Pyongyang's nuclear efforts that led to its production of eight bombs worth of nuclear materials. As Graham Allison of Harvard noted in an interview with the New York Times, "When the history of this era is written, the scorecard will be Kim 8, Bush 0."

Picking up where nuclear talks left off may be the best way to promote stability on the Korean peninsula in this time of transition. There is no guarantee that it will work, but it is by far the best option available.

 
 
 
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12:49 PM on 12/22/2011
No need. They know what they need to do.
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lilipilicious
12:46 PM on 12/22/2011
The people of N Korea really and truly believe that Kim Jong II is/was heaven and god sent. When you are indoctrinated into one belief since day one, in your mind there is nothing else. I say what Kim Jong and his son did to the people in North Korea is criminal just form a humanitarian perspective. It is criminal to essentially keep these people's minds enslaved like that and hold them captives for the sole purpose of brainwashing them into worshiping you. This is extremely tragic and sad and if we were to ever turn to North Korea we would have to do it from a .humanitarian point of view because that is what it is all about really. North Korea is committing crimes against humanity under the ruse of state sovereignty and the West is just standing by. If we ever had a reason to go into another country and wanted ot use "freedom" as a reason, North Korea is it. I sincerely believe that we would do the people there, the human beings in that piece of land, a huge favor. it is like we have an entire society under slavery and we dont touch it for dubious reasons. That is not right. It only diminishes us as members of the human race.
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Lochness71
Here I am.
01:08 PM on 12/22/2011
Why the USA? Is there no humanity or principles in the other Asian countries?
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biskitdaddy
Sit down and eat your peas!
01:41 PM on 12/22/2011
"If we ever had a reason to go into another country and wanted ot use "freedom" as a reason, North Korea is it."

ABSOLUTELY NOT! No more wars to make Cheyney and his cronies filthy rich!!! We can't free everybody and fight their wars for them, hell we've got people starving here at home.
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lilipilicious
02:39 PM on 12/22/2011
My point was that we apparently have no problem, never had a problem, going into countries under the ruse of humanitarian aide. Remember Kuwait? Remember Irak? I know that we went it for oil but this time it would actually be for the reason we put on the book: humanitari­an aide. I dont see how it would enrich Cheney as there is no oil in N Korea - unless I missed something. Finally, it would of course have to be community efforts, backed by the UN and EU etc. The US alone cannot do it, but i do think it is part of our responsibility as human beings. When I say crimes agasint humanity I am not using that lightly. N Korea IS committing crimes against humanity, just that they dont send anyone into camps; and for the world to just stand by and watch because it might be too inconvenient, when we had no problem going in for greed and lesser reasons, is unacceptable. I like how you totally missed the point and all you can think of is how it affects you. If you were living in N Korea you wouldnt say "well we cant free everyone". Empathy mister, empathy. Makes the world a better place.
11:53 AM on 12/22/2011
Total BS. We have been trying to reach out to North Korea for decades under several administrations. North Korea has milked us for aid every time. What the US should do, along with Japan and South Korea, is to end once and for all the 5 party talks. We should tell the Chinese that North Korea is their creation and they are 100% reponsible for North Korea. No more aid from the US, Japan and South Korea. The aid must come from China. China will also be held responsible for any aggressive actions by North Korea and if North Korea ever launches nuclear weapons against anyone the response will be total extermination of that failed state.
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biskitdaddy
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01:44 PM on 12/22/2011
Damn right, every word of it.
11:12 AM on 12/22/2011
The West hasn't proven that "communism" doesn't work, look at China, instead, it's proven it doesn't work under sanctions and economic sabotage.
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lilipilicious
12:44 PM on 12/22/2011
communism has proven that communism doesnt work. Are you kidding me? China is a communist totalitarian society that is only capitalistic economy wise. N Korea is a tru communist society. And China isnt doing well: no regulations of any kind have made it have one of the highest cancer rates in the world, a lot of mass poverty and oppression.
12:50 PM on 12/22/2011
It works great if you want millions starving in gray pajamas, and all dissent crushed with an iron fist.
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AlfredE69
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08:00 AM on 12/22/2011
It's also way past time for the US to pull its troops out of South Korea.
11:59 AM on 12/22/2011
Completely agree. South Korea has a larger manpower base than North Korea and it has a substantially larger economic base. South Korea can defend itself in a conventional war. We should tell North Korea that in the even they ever use 1 nuclear device against anyone the response will be total extermination.
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01:04 PM on 12/22/2011
we have troops in south korea?
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Lochness71
Here I am.
01:10 PM on 12/22/2011
Yes. The Koren war is still an active war technically. Remember the 38th parrallel?
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AlfredE69
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07:37 PM on 12/22/2011
According to the military paper there are 28,500 US troops in South Korea. And guess who pays for them?

http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/korea/u-s-army-in-south-korea-begins-transformation-of-forces-1.115890
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Robert Frank
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07:11 AM on 12/22/2011
how about we start being the adult in the room like we so often yammer on about and sign a no-strings-attached peace treaty with them? that would be the proper start
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White Raven
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05:52 AM on 12/22/2011
It's actually a pretty good time to poke North Korea just to see how it acts, and to stress them out some. That whole regime is balancing on a razor's edge, so it might be a good time to do some low flights over the country or cruise a few warships just past their waters to make them antsy.
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AlfredE69
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08:01 AM on 12/22/2011
You lead the charge Sarge.
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09:38 AM on 12/22/2011
I love to see hero material express themselves in belicose terms. :)
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05:11 AM on 12/22/2011
"Time to Reach Out to North Korea"
I see citizens of the south, are sending bundles of pamphlets attached to balloons to their northern counterparts. Wouldn’t a few sweets or a piece of chocolate be a more comradely gesture?

"Prior to his death, Kim Jong Il had offered to stop uranium enrichment in exchange for food aid"
If any nation operates a system under which its people starve. Is such an ideology worth fighting to the death for?

"When the history of this era is written, the scorecard will be Kim 8, Bush 0."
And that doesn’t even take into account, all the unproductive effort expended in bunkers.
04:25 AM on 12/22/2011
Big Macs and Coke for all.
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02:02 AM on 12/22/2011
Every time I think about North Korea, I'm reminded of Ceaucescu's Romania, and I wonder when the Kim dynasty's people will finally have that moment where they've endured enough, and overthrow their insane rulers. Maybe we will get lucky and this will happen sooner rather than later.
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02:35 AM on 12/22/2011
The colapse of communism in the Warsaw Pact nations fell like dominos. The PRK is so isolated that a window to the rest of the world would first have to be pushed open a little bit. Of course without the USA as the regime's bugbear their raison d'etre would falter. And what to do with a million man (and woamn) army? Sooner is just a dream. Later is something we might not live long enough to see.
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03:06 AM on 12/22/2011
Yeah, I considered that. But even in isolation, there has to be a tipping point when the people of a country have been so brutally oppressed for so long that they just don't bother taking it anymore...but that could take a long time in the absence of any external force. I don't think North Korea 'needs' the US as an enemy, though; they always have their neighbor to the south for that.
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Robert Frank
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07:13 AM on 12/22/2011
China supports them too much..until they cut off all aid nothing will change
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Aarontastic
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02:00 AM on 12/22/2011
I agree that diplomacy should be our focus going forward. The dictator's death could not have come as a surprise, and I'm sure that the conservative military clique comprising his inner-circle were expecting his death. No one seems to know anything about his successor, save that he spent a few years at university in Switzerland--without more concrete details regarding his personality, his political views, and his relationship with Pyongyang's power-brokers, it's next to impossible to predict whether or not the transition will proceed seamlessly, or what the new Kim's policies will look like if it does.

The best way to deal with that kind of uncertainty is to be prepared for anything. I think the most likely scenario to play out involves Kim being marginalized within the government, at least temporarily, until he can assert himself. That might involve saber-rattling, but it won't be anything more serious than Yeonpyang Island. We need to anticipate that and still be prepared to parlay with them.
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01:21 AM on 12/22/2011
I agree that the nuclear talks should resume as soon as possible. However, North Korea has been brazenly untrustworthy in their promises in the past. I find it hard to have a lot of faith that talks will accomplish much of anything with them, in the long run. Let us hope that with the family cult of personality temporarily suspended that the senior military leadership in North Korea somehow feels the urge to take some positive steps. A slim hope, but hope nonetheless.
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01:21 AM on 12/22/2011
north korea is being held in reserve so after the iran war they will be next in line for the american industrial miltiary complex.

there is always a war to fight when you have a war machine like america's. must use it or lose it.

it is amazing to think that with 720 military bases around the world and 40% of their federal budget going for their war machine and americans dont consider themselves imperialists. Ike knew better but they paid him no mind.
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Robert Frank
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07:15 AM on 12/22/2011
people here are brainwashed into believing there is another boogeyman just around the next corner and if we don't go get him he will sneak into our bedrooms at night and get us..we buy into the pre-emptive wars will solve our problems lie
12:52 PM on 12/22/2011
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OneTop
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12:29 AM on 12/22/2011
Interesting times.

Stability meaning, a nation state that is under the direct influence and control of the US. That is the diplomatic meaning within the US foreign policy circles.

Given the objectives of US foreign policy in the pacific, (America's Pacific Century by Hillary Clinton. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/11/americas_pacific_century I suspect that North Korea has become a much more complicated project.

Their should be no serious debate about the use of diplomacy as the only other choices are do nothing or war.

A good place to start would be to formally end the Korean war, something that is long overdue and a persistent point made by the North over the years. That would take a profound attitude and ideological change in the US, but, if the parties are serious about resolving issues, why not start there?
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imdesign
Expression is Everything.
11:17 PM on 12/21/2011
The biggest issue is the arrogance of the leaders and those "have and have more's" in Nth Korea. The ruling class are fine and their propaganda has been in full swing against the evil of the west so much so, that suspicion and fear reigns supreme.

They still parade visitors through a US naval ship captured by their great navy in 1968 as proof of their superiority - while many of their nation don't have food, running water or electricity.
It will take time to create an open society and while the dictatorial regime is in power it will be impossible.

Fear and false power still has a firm grip.