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In 2012, Vote for Courage

Posted: 05/15/11 04:46 PM ET

A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for.

- William G.T. Shedd


Here is a trick question: Now that the 2012 election campaign has begun, should you vote Republican or Democrat?

The correct answer: Neither of the above. In this election, maybe more than ever, it should be courage that counts, not party affiliation.

It's the tough issues in tough times that are the best tests of courage -- and right now, few issues are tougher in American politics than confronting global climate change. It requires that we stand up against godzilla vested interests and say goodbye to a carbon economy which has served us so long that no American alive today remembers life without it.

The lack of political courage on this issue is well-documented in the emerging field of Republican presidential hopefuls. Almost every prominent Republican who has announced or is considering a run for the presidency has changed position on carbon cap and trade, even though it is a "market-based" approach once promoted by GOP leaders. Here's how the Atlantic describes current climate politics:

Supporting a cap-and-trade approach to greenhouse gas regulation is basically taboo in the GOP these days, but most of the top-tier Republican presidential contenders have backed it in the past...Nowadays, you'd be hard pressed to find a Republican who supports the policy, after conservatives railed for two years against "cap-and-tax" as a job-killing government overreach...Republican candidates campaigned against cap-and-trade en masse in 2010, and it worked out in their favor. After all that, Republican White House hopefuls have revised their previously held energy stances.

The flip-floppers include Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich. The Atlantic notes that Palin was obligated to give climate change a cool embrace while she campaigned two years ago with John McCain. Now Palin can claim she did it for the ticket and her feet are planted firmly back in denial.

McCain has no excuse. He was once one of the Republican Party's most outspoken advocates of climate action. He co-sponsored an early cap-and-trade bill with Joe Lieberman in 2003 and reintroduced the legislation in 2005 and 2007. He said then:


I have proposed a bipartisan plan to address the problem of climate change and stimulate the development and use of advanced technologies. It is a market-based approach that would set reasonable caps on carbon and other greenhouse gas emissions, and provide industries with tradable credits... offering a powerful incentive to drive the deployment of new and better energy sources and technologies...

In April 2007, setting the stage for his presidential race, McCain gave an energy policy speech in which he described global warming and America's dependence on foreign oil as national security issues. Two years later after losing the election, the maverick apparently had been beaten out of him. McCain joined other climate deserters in his party and slammed President Obama's approach to cap and trade. By November 2009, he was criticizing another prominent cap-and-trade proposal -- the Graham-Lieberman bill in the Senate -- as "horrendous", a "monstrosity" and a "cap-and-tax" scheme. As Politico reported it "Former aides are mystified by what they see as a retreat on the issue, given McCain's long history of leadership on climate legislation."

McCain's reversal was so dramatic that Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman, writing in the New York Times, called the senator a "climate coward".

When he was in the House in 1989, Newt Gingrich authored HR 1078, the "Global Warming Prevention Act". Its judgment about climate change was unequivocal:

The Earth's atmosphere is being changed at an unprecedented rate by pollutants resulting from human activities... global warming imperils human health and well-being (and is) a major threat to political stability, international security and economic prosperity.
Gingrich published "Contract with the Earth" and called for green conservatism. In 2007, he said he would strongly support a carbon cap-and-trade regime, "much like we did with sulfur".


In 2008, he appeared in a television spot in which he and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, sitting together on a couch like chums, agreed that "America needs to do something about global climate change." The ad was part of Al Gore's campaign to rally public support for climate action. But by 2009, Gingrich was distancing himself from Gore, calling for more oil production and endorsing "green coal". In congressional testimony, he strongly disputed Gore's interpretation of climate science and called cap-and-trade a "tax" and "secular socialism".

He blasted Obama's support for carbon cap-and-trade, saying it "would have the effect of an across-the-board energy tax on every American".

It's not just Republicans who flip-flop on climate change or who simply don't want to talk about it. Congressional staff in both parties acknowledge that "climate change" is not something their bosses want to discuss right now. In the aftermath of his bin Laden mission, no one can accuse President Obama of lacking courage as a leader. But many in the environmental community, one of President Obama's natural constituencies, were disappointed that his support for cap-and-trade legislation during the 111th Congress did not match the conviction they heard during his campaign. Conservatives whine that although Obama has flip-flopped on some issues, the media cut him slack and call him a "nuanced thinker".

One has to wonder what a life in politics does to our leaders. I am not the only baby-boomer who remembers and admires John McCain's uncommon courage and honor as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. Or that moment in 1971 when a young John Kerry -- who served with distinction both in Vietnam and in Vietnam Veterans Against the War -- gave what may be the most eloquent truth-telling speech ever uttered before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Yet today, Sen. McCain is called a "climate coward". Sen. Kerry, still a man of principle whose remarkable journey has brought him to chair the Senate committee he addressed 40 years ago, seemed shell-shocked during his presidential campaign in 2004 when character assassins from the Right Wing smeared his military service -- a shameful and ludicrous attack under any circumstances, but especially when the candidate with questionable military service during the Vietnam war was Kerry's opponent, George W. Bush.

The brutality of cage-fighting in the political arena today makes good people battle-weary and gun-shy. Yet political candidates are not forced into the arena; they volunteer. Fighting for us and our children is why we pay them the big bucks and give them special parking spaces at Reagan National Airport.

I'm writing about this not because flip-flopping is new or previously undocumented, or because changing one's mind is always wrong. We grow, we learn. We come to understand that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," as Emerson put it.

But consistency in confronting climate change is not foolish. The reality of the threat is not a matter of opinion, belief or political philosophy. It is physics. It's about accepting facts and probabilities, and separating from the pack if necessary to prevent an unprecedented security risk that extends far beyond our generation, our political districts and our nation. The 2012 election campaign is a fresh opportunity to judge the candidates on whether they have the guts to do this. Each candidate and every voter would do well to think about the observation by psychologist Rollo May: "The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, it is conformity."

It is instructive to compare what we hear in Congress and presidential politics today with what we hear from distinguished national leaders who have no axes to grind and no more elections to win. Consider the statement published in 2009 by the Partnership for a Secure America. It was signed by these retired government leaders from both political parties:

Sen. Howard Baker, National Security Advisor Samuel Berger, Secretary of State Warren Christopher, Sen. John Danforth, White House chief of staff Ken Duberstein, Sen. Slade Gordon, Rep. Lee Hamilton, Sen. Gary Hart, U.S. Trade Representative Carla Hills, Sen. Nancy Kassebaum-Baker, Gov. Thomas Keen, National Security Advisor Tony Lake; National Security Advisor Robert McFarlane, Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Donald HcHenry, Sen. Sam Nunn, Secretary of Defense William Perry, Secretary of Commerce Peter Peterson, Under Secretary of State Thomas Pickering, U.S. Ambassador to China Joseph Prueher, Sen. Warren Rudman, Secretary of State George Shultz, White House Special Council Ted Sorensen, Chief of Staff of the Army Gordon Sullivan, Gen. Charles Wald, Sen. John Warner, Deputy Secretary of State John Whitehead, Gov. Christine Todd Whitman, Sen. Tim Wirth, Under Secretary of State Frank Wisner, and Central Intelligence Director James Woolsey.

Here's what they said:

Climate change is a national security issue. The longer we wait to act, the harder it will be to mitigate and respond to its impacts. U.S. leadership alone will not guarantee global cooperation. But if we fail to take action now, we will have little hope of influencing other countries to reduce their own harmful contributions to climate change, or of forging a coordinated international response. We must also help less developed countries adapt to the realities and consequences of a drastically changed climate. Doing so now will help avoid humanitarian disasters and political instability in the future that could ultimately threaten the security of the U.S. and our allies. But most importantly, we must transcend the political issues that divide us - by party and by region - to devise a unified American strategy that can endure and succeed. 

We, the undersigned Republicans and Democrats, believe Congress working closely with the Administration must develop a clear, comprehensive, realistic and broadly bipartisan plan to address our role in the climate change crisis. WE MUST LEAD.

The emphasis on the last sentence was theirs, not mine.



 

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A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for. - William G.T. Shedd Here is a trick question: Now that the 2012 election campaign has begun, should you vote Republican or Democr...
A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for. - William G.T. Shedd Here is a trick question: Now that the 2012 election campaign has begun, should you vote Republican or Democr...
 
 
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Iatros78
Science is the consensus of expert opinion
08:48 PM on 05/17/2011
Rather than go round in circles with science deniers, it is better to have good resources at hand to help explain climate change to those who are unsure but open to learning more about the science of climate change.

NASA has a six minute video that succintly presents the science behind climate change (http://cli­mate.nasa.­gov/warmin­gworld/)

Naomi Oreskes' lecture "Answering Climate Change Skeptics" at the University of Rhode Island is also an excellent explanatio­n of what we know about climate change and when we knew it (http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=XXyTpY0NC­p0)

Here are some additional valuable resources:

"Knowledge of Climate Change Across Global Warming's Six Americas" by the Yale Project on Climate Change Communicat­ion. It contains a great survey of how Americans understand climate science. (http://env­ironment.y­ale.edu/cl­imate/file­s/Knowledg­e_Across_S­ix_America­s.pdf)

Naomi Oreskes recent book "Merchant of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientist Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming"

Chris Mooney's recent article in Mother Jones "The Science of Why We Don't Believe Science" ( http://mot­herjones.c­om/politic­s/2011/03/­denial-sci­ence-chris­-mooney?pa­ge=4)

Most Americans respect science and scientists­. They respect educationa­l and scientific organizati­ons. They are not conspiracy theorists.”
07:17 PM on 05/16/2011
The deniers are out in full force. We must remember many of them get paid to go on comments like this an deny climate change.
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doubleB
07:00 PM on 05/16/2011
So if we vote for "courage" in the next election... (I take the insinuation to mean neither Dem or Repub...), what are our choices? Pull another "Nader", similar to 2000, and put another Bush equivalent in the White House for 8 more years? We can't afford to. I like a lot of Green party candidates, but a 3rd party candidate will never get elected, and will only siphon votes away from the Repub or Dem. The only way we're going to get past this is by changing the way we vote. This is what we should be focusing on, not repeating mistakes we've already made.
01:53 PM on 05/16/2011
Recently I wrote a Marxist critique of the ideology of “Green” environmentalism, the locavore and organic food movements, deep ecology, permaculture, ecofeminism, "radical" environmentalism (Green anarchy, "veganarchism," animal liberation, anarcho-primitivism) and lifestyle politics in general (veganism, “dumpster diving,” “buying organic,” "locavorism," etc.). I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter and any responses you might have to its criticisms. It goes beyond the stale dichotomy of Democrat or Republican: http://wp.me/pgGDG-fq
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Exusian
Nature bats last
05:05 PM on 05/16/2011
Martin Durkin, the maker of that fraudulent denialist screed "The Great Global Warming Swindle," is a Marxist, and Marxism has been just as guilty as Capitalism in fostering environmental degradation and destruction.
07:11 PM on 05/16/2011
I have been a vegan for 20 yrs. and a vegetarian for 20 before that. I am doing fine. I do not proselytize but I will defend. The ideas and lifestyles you mention in a demonizing way seem to be threatening to corporations, and people who will not own up to the harm they are doing, so it is easier to demonize people who are trying to "do no harm." All the ideas you mentioned are trying to point in a direction other than the hierarchical, power over, domination of Earth, people, animals . They are pointing to a way that humans can live respecting Nature which we are a part of, respecting all people and animals. They are in harmony with the reality that we are all a part of nature "the web of life" that everything is connected, and everything deserves respect, and that we need to learn from nature and work with it rather than against it. Given this culture of domination, unreality, greed and ravishing Earth, it is an idea that is different. It's too bad that young people like yourself think it's cool to demonize these ideas. It makes me wonder how much corporate propaganda has influenced your thinking.
05:22 PM on 05/17/2011
I can not believe how most people who are very well educated canbe so blind. Global warming or climate change is nothing new. The earth has been going through change since day one. Ever here of the Ice age. Or what about the mass extinction of the dinosaurs. There were no factorys then to cause polution. When we worship the creature instead of the Creator we always get into trouble. You have been brainwashed by liberal college professors who are paid by the special interest groups who want to redistribute wealth and cripple our nation. It5s time we stop wasting money on things we cannot control and start investing in our nations security. at the rate were going we wont have to worry about climate change because the muslims are taking us over incrementally. Why should we worry about offending people who want to kill us all. Thats the way we see things on the creek.
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larrystalcup
10:50 AM on 05/16/2011
what if all you naysayers who believe climate change is just a hoax are wrong??????
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Daniel Hicks
Science > Your opinion
11:35 AM on 05/16/2011
All you have said and more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ
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03:36 PM on 05/17/2011
Oh come on. Reason and logic where we're dealing with emotions and politics? Next thing you'll start with science or the economic effects of prevention vs mitigation! That's way beyond most people's comprehension. Keeping the head firmly in the sand is so much easier.
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
10:38 AM on 05/16/2011
As you yourself quoted “We grow, we learn. We come to understand that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," as Emerson put it.”
Weather patterns change every few hundred years. That has been recorded, and that’s what’s happening. It’s the very reason why of the 25 states who originally signed on to Al Gore’s ridiculous environmental bill have dwindled to just 7. It's also why, when after the numerous scientific studies were done on global warming/climate change, which found it to be a hoax, republicans accepted fact over fiction.
Explain the ice age. Did man have a hand in that? Explain the Oklahoma dust bowl. Did man have a hand in that? To think mankind can control the weather is ridiculous.
Aside from the global warming issue, if you choose to put all your eggs in one basket, you’ll never win, because you’ll never find anyone you agree 100% with if you’re an independent thinker.
Go GOP.
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kleighhoff
Relief is the order of business...
11:20 AM on 05/16/2011
To say that the climate change was found to be a hoax is uneducated and small minded. To utililze clean energy over dirty energy choices is not only more than reasonable, it is mandatory. To fight to keep using energy we know beyond a shadow of a doubt is toxic to everything alive on this planet is short-sighted and detrimental.
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
11:47 AM on 05/16/2011
All people with common sense want to protect the planet we live on. That’s a given. Technology has given us an opportunity to extract oil and natural gas without harming the environment. Like it or not, oil will always be with us, and nothing will ever replace it. Less than half of every barrel of oil retrieved is used for gasoline. The day you can fly a 747 with batteries, or move cargo from port to port? I’ll believe that when I see it.
12:40 PM on 05/16/2011
Its not that climate change is a hoax its that the idea that the small temperature change we have seen in the last 100+ years is all due to CO2 made by man. The truth is we don’t know and anyone who says they do know is a liar.

The CRU scandal and the phone “Hockey Stick” graph are all parts of the issue.
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Daniel Hicks
Science > Your opinion
11:52 AM on 05/16/2011
"There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." For instance, Milankovich cycles.

Give me the titles or links to the peer reviewed studies you seem to have found that no reputable climate scientist has. I'll try to review them objectively. If you don't have them or haven't read them yourself, why do you say any different, and base your political stance on them?

Why is it ridiculous to think man can 'control' the weather? (I'd say 'alter,' because we don't know what we're doing when we change it.) Skyscrapers have their own microweather, and the Vatican does too. The sum of all the cars and factories on Earth must scale up from this, wouldn't you think? Maybe it is ridiculous to think one person has an impact, but there are 7 billion of us now. Why make such a bold claim with no supporting reasoning or evidence? You take it on faith, is why.
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
12:59 PM on 05/16/2011
Garth Paltridge,Pubs Visiting Fellow ANU and retired Chief Research Scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired Director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre
Hendrik Tennekes, retired Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
Antonino Zichichi,Pubs emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists
Khabibullo Abdusamatov, mathematician and astronomer at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences
Sallie Baliunas, astronomer, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics:
George V. Chilingar, Professor of Civil and Petroleum Engineering at the University of Southern California:
Ian Clark,Pubs hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Chris de Freitas,Pubs Associate Professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland
David Douglass, Pubssolid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester

If you'd like more, just ask.
10:25 AM on 05/16/2011
You say vote. For who??? Obama is in, he is doing nothing about it. You know no Republican will do anything. So if Obama says he will do something while campaigning like he did last time are we to believe him, when he has done nothing while president? No candidate that would make that crucially needed change would be allowed to run, except maybe in a third party which would get axed out and have no chance of winning. So WHO are we to vote for????? Unfortunately I think the change has to come from the people, boycotting the corps. as much as possible, bypassing corporate media, going to small scale solar, veg gardening, supporting organic farming, bartering, creating an alternative economy/lifestyle from the bottom. I'm open for suggestions.
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ringo3khan
01:06 PM on 05/16/2011
My thoughts exactly, and I don't pay much attention to the climate change issue. These elections are pointless and way too expensive.
09:21 AM on 05/16/2011
There is not one single congressman with an (R) behind his or her name who will admit global warming is both man-made and is clearly a problem we need to deal with.

This is why Rome is burning.

Our national conversation and policy has been dragged, kicking and screaming, to the far right for the last thirty years. We are living with the result, including a climate blind government.

That must change, and it will. Everyone vote.
09:13 AM on 05/16/2011
It is breath of fresh air that people shouldn’t just vote for a party. However, a better case may have been for ‘careers’ rather than ‘courage’. Jobs via clean energy would have a more immediate and if not a more noticeable return. This is because even though we lead in some pollutant areas, we seem to account for approximately 25% of the global issue. If we able to fast forward past any political obstacles, and cut our pollutants to a mere third, the earth would still be left with 81% of this problem.
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RED66
We must return to a Constitutional government.
08:31 AM on 05/16/2011
The planets in our solar system have also warmed as the Earth has.

How and when did man cause that?
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bd7769
I am so often right, that I am a progressive
09:07 AM on 05/16/2011
The warming of other plants was caused by me, driving my SUV too much here on Earth.
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RED66
We must return to a Constitutional government.
09:12 AM on 05/16/2011
I hold NASA responsible for the warming on Mars.

Remember those two little SUVs they've been driving around?
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
10:40 AM on 05/16/2011
Me too! I love my SUV.
09:28 AM on 05/16/2011
Some planets are warming and some are cooling. Plus our ability to measure other planet's climates, particularly their climate history is limited. One thing we can tell for sure is that over the last fifty years, the sun’s output has decreased slightly: it is radiating LESS heat.
Take a look at various sources, not just what supports what you already want to believe.
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marco01
12:23 PM on 05/16/2011
Oh please, you know the new way of "knowledge" in America is to look for things that support your preconceived notions!
 
FF for supporting those stubborn things, facts!
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jmounday
Don't believe anything you read below
07:44 AM on 05/16/2011
It was sold to the american people, wrong. Was it not?
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Matthew Christopher
07:36 AM on 05/16/2011
The simple truth is that the whole climate change thing is a political game, it always has been and always will be. A bunch of people think global warming is human caused and is a problem, an equally large bunch thinks basically the opposite. Politicians will say whatever they think will help them win. It would help the climate change believers if their science were better and not so easily debated, but until their models become more solid and all-inclusive that will be difficult.
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08:17 AM on 05/16/2011
THE FACTS ARE IN!..97% of world's leading scientists are on the same page here. it's not 50/50. not at all.
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RED66
We must return to a Constitutional government.
08:29 AM on 05/16/2011
97% of scientists said the Earth was flat and was the center of the universe.

Consensus means nothing in science. Only cold hard facts do.
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Robert Huber
10:05 AM on 05/16/2011
That 97% number is a bit tricky...

1. It's not like science is a big debate where facts are voted in by majority rule.

2. I can't find the 97% figure anywhere. In science forums, I often find lively discussions on climate. They usually seem to be closer to 50:50 than 97:3.

3. The actual stats largely depend on precisely how the question is phrased. Clearly, CO2 and sea level have increased over the past 100 years. The real debate is over the extent of the observed changes. There are shrill people on the far left who seem to think the world will end tomorrow. That won't happen.
09:23 AM on 05/16/2011
You couldn't be more wrong and have offered no evidence to prove your assertion.

Do yourself a favor and read the peer-reviewed scientific literature linked throughout this site: http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php


Man's activity has caused a warmer climate. The only thing political is what to do about it.
12:52 PM on 05/16/2011
peer reviewed by who – Mr. Jones. And how about all the stuff that this crook keep from getting published? How about all the questions around the DATA. The whole temperature history as faked up by cherry picked Yama tree rings is still unresolved. The MWP was global but the fanatics still try to bury it. The whole of climate science is a mess.
http://climateaudit.org/page/2/
02:04 AM on 05/16/2011
I never did like the whole cap-and-trade idea. I thought it was bad when Republicans proposed it in the 90s and I still think it's bad now that Democrats are proposing it. I mean where is the incentive to stop polluting. It says it in the name: if you pollute below the "cap" you can "trade" the leftovers to a company that pollutes a lot. It's going to come to the point where big companies are going to be paying top dollar for the smaller companies leftovers so they can keep on polluting. How does that help the environment?
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bd7769
I am so often right, that I am a progressive
07:51 AM on 05/16/2011
there is no incentive, it about money, that is all its ever been about.
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01:31 AM on 05/16/2011
Prove the global warming theory and not with data that is meant to fit the theory. The global warming theory has alot of variables in the theory, prove these variables are insignificant. The sun being a major variable, to ignore the sun as having a effect on the climate is just plain foolish. The sad fact is a very small portion of the worlds population will become very wealthy with this carbon tax at the detriment of the many. Why is depleted uranium ignored or the melt down of the Jappanese nuclear reactors? Everything with the elite comes down to profit, what is good for the environment has nothing to do with it. Profit is king, power over you is king, what is moral and right is meaningless.
trish333
Progressivism is the new fascism.
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Demitasse
Ars longa, vita brevis
12:56 AM on 05/16/2011
lol... one of the few scientists for the denier's side, from an article from 2007 no less (not much since then, heh?) and he's suppose to be mankind's savior from the AGW fanatics, right? 98% of the world's scientists, the ones who stand by AGW, are wrong while the Two percenter's, the deniers, the energy company flunkies, are right. I'm sure the Koch Bros are proud of you Trish. You prove that brainwashing works - and I bet it feels good, too.
trish333
Progressivism is the new fascism.
01:08 AM on 05/16/2011
What are you talking about? The article is dated 4/7/2011:

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/
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Matthew Christopher
07:39 AM on 05/16/2011
Science is not determined by a consensus, it is determined by proof. Right now humans are not capable of modelling all the systems that play into the global ecosystem. In the future perhaps we will be able to do so, but right now it is computationally impossible. A few hundred years ago the consesus was the earth was flat, is that true?
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Daniel Hicks
Science > Your opinion
01:37 AM on 05/16/2011
This guy has a Ph.D. in what now? Electrical Engineering... that's right. I'd trust him to design a circuit or do me some calculus, but not to talk about the climate. Who is still talking anything about a 'moist pocket' in the tropics? Even if one prediction like that turned out to be wrong, it doesn't change the fact that we're still seeing dramatically increased CO2 in the atmosphere, melting ice, and changing climate patterns today. I'm wondering what this David Evans thinks actually IS accounting for all that. Real scientists don't just stop when they get a new result: they propose a new hypothesis? What does he think fits the available data better than the remarkably-good-fitting explanation that man is altering the climate?
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Matthew Christopher
07:43 AM on 05/16/2011
CO2 was significantly higher when dinosaurs ruled the earth, ice melts and reforms every year, and climate patters change on numerous different timescales. Just because humans have become able to somewhat accurately tell what the earth is doing in the last 40 years does not mean we are able to model those observations and accurately predict what will happen in the next 400 years. My weatherman is lucky to get tomorrow's weather correct for crying out loud.