11/04/2008 05:12 am ET Updated May 25, 2011

HuffPollstrology: Candidates' Horoscopes, Polls And More For October 5

Polls have come to dominate the media's horse race coverage of political campaigns. Pundits and reporters constantly use them to tell us who's hot and who's not -- but skip over the fact that plummeting response rates and variables like undecided voters and margins of error often render these polls useless as anything other than lightweight diversions on par with horoscopes and political betting lines. Below you'll find a slew of polling, astrological, and betting information that will hopefully help the polling junkies in the media keep polls in the proper perspective.

We've also updated HuffPollstrology to bring you regular takes from astrologers on the state of the presidential race. And we've included a section that digs deeper into how polls are conducted. And to make sure we're really investigating, we're going to add various blogs and articles that cast a skeptical eye on polling. Read on for lots of HuffPollstrology:



We'll take a quick break from noting the polls for McCain and Obama to detail the trends for the vice-presidential debate. The communication planet, Mercury, continues his backward track, opening the door for gaffes, misstatements and twists of context. Combined with Biden's skill of going on a spell and Palin's ability to fill dead air with her brand of air, it could be rich. With a passionate, down and dirty Scorpio Moon that can blurt what out it really feels if properly pushed, the promise for a debate for archives exists... oh, for the tantalizing trigger.


To be clear, there are two times floating around for Sarah Palin. The McCain campaign failed to respond to both e-mail and phone requests for confirmation. Watching recent events, the 4:40 P.M. chart tracks better.

Three strong triggers affect the Gov's chart during the debate. Mercury engages with Jupiter, known for embellishment, exaggeration, and if cornered, making up stuff. It's hard to cram in Sedona. They have confusing circles in the road and high powered energy altering UFO amplified vortices that even continual exposure to Northern lights cannot mitigate. If she can sort through that and the free association tendency brought to her home turf by Neptune, she might be fine. Sure. The Scorpio Moon does not favor Palin's Aquarian planets. While contentious, sometimes this pattern can force a person to focus. Then again, if emotionally stirred and pushed off center, the tenor can turn impolite. To win collective favor, she must eliminate comments that come off as insulting and adolescent. The Inuit planet, Sedna, also featured in McCain's horoscope, addresses a tough to sort myth in which a father throws a daughter off the boat to save his own carcass. The spread of appeals for Palin's removal from the ticket widens. She's in a hard place; the line she must toe is particularly thin and definitely not circuitous.


Joe, once he gets rolling, can dash right past go, miss the $200 and blow the sale. However, being a Scorpio, he rides a huge wave of favor during the debate. Venus aligns with his Mars, boosting his like ability and demeanor. Venus being women and Mars being Men, he's submitted to a hammering from aides about sexism, patronizing tones and decorum. Duly noted, but the Moon urges him to stress the urgency of what's at stake. A tone of firmness while addressing hard core bottom line issues works perfectly. Given other patterns that when described sound like Biden going on, expect him to note that most administration choices made in the last eight years simply failed. And of course, McCain's intended continuance of Bush's ways pepper his points. The message: Choose change. Even if he does go on one or three of his famous tangents, unless he directly insults Palin, his stock rises.


HuffPost is delving into the gray area of how polls are conducted. Below is an analysis of how pollsters come up with the numbers through response rates. The definition of a response rate is taken from Arianna's 1998 column "Investigating The Pollsters."

The key to polling's accuracy is the principle of "equal probability of selection." But if larger and larger numbers among those randomly selected refuse to participate, this principle no longer applies.

We asked polling companies to please give us the response and refusal rates for their polls listed below.

American Research Group Poll, Conducted September 27-September 29

Results: McCain 45%, Obama 49%
Method: 1,200 likely voters
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": An ARG representative told us, "For the nationwide survey conducted September 27-29:

Total adults contacted: 4,396

Total adults screened: 2,011*

Total failing screen or dropping out: 811

Total sample size: 1,200

* Some adults screened themselves out prior to the actual screen (e.g., not registered to vote, not planning to vote)."

Zogby Internet Poll, Conducted September 26-September 27

Results: McCain 46%, Obama 47%
Method: 2,102 likely voters polled using an online panel.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A Zogby representative told us, "17.4% of those invited completed the Zogby Interactive survey Sept. 26-27."

DailyKos/Research 2000 Poll, Conducted September 29-October 1

Results: McCain 40%, Obama 51%
Method: 1,100 likely voters polled over three days.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A Research 2000 representative explained the methodology of the poll, saying that it was a rolling poll with a baseline of 1,100 likely voters, taking approximately 355 to 365 calls per night and throwing out the oldest numbers. "I would say that [we take] one in every eight calls on average," he said, attributing this rate to a combination of callers "telling us to go to hell" and callers not meeting their standard of a "likely voter" through a name recognition test.

Gallup Daily Poll Conducted September 29-October 1

Results: McCain 43%, Obama 48%
Method: 2,747 registered voters polled over three days.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": 14% response rate, 26% refusal rate. This is an average rate for this particular series of polls, technically defined as the CASRO rate which is similar to the AAPOR-III response rate (these definitions can be found here).

Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll Conducted September 29-October 1

Results: Obama 51%, McCain 44%
Method: Sample of 3,000 likely voters over three days.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A representative for Rasmussen told us, "We don't give out that information".

George Washington University (Lake/Tarrance) Poll, Conducted September 26-October 1

Results: Obama 49%, McCain 44%
Method: Sample of 800 likely voters.
"Will it be possible for us to get the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": After a few calls, a representative for Tarrance told us, "It's not going to be. Write what you need to write, but it's not going to be. We're four weeks out from a campaign and quite frankly this is not anywhere near my priority list. Okay?"



Mccain vs obama in the General election




Rasmussen Daily
scorpioVIRGO August 29, 1936

Having reached the conclusion that you can't complete a task alone, you might need to enthuse those around you (possibly neighbours) to help out. It could be that they're just not as affected as you are: perhaps they don't see the possibilities. You probably know what you want from your environment and might already be playing with designs to improve a layout. You might also be worried about the costs involved. The numbers side of your brain could play an almost relentless accounting game working out what's possible and what's not. Today, however, you could stretch both cash and items. Your professional expertise could bring you an attractive job offer - where your leadership and creative talents are brought together.


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Rasmussen Daily
scorpioLEO August 4, 1961

You could be on the move - literally and figuratively. Relations with someone born under one of the Water signs of Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces appear high profile. One of these individuals could help you cut through red tape and arrive at an equitable solution to a problem that's been ongoing for a while now. The cost of transport could be discussed, - leading to the suggestion that you join forces to reduce rising expenses. Tempting as it may be to reminisce - and you may be right in thinking that you did have the 'time of your life' some years back - even contact with people from that period might not bring those times back. You could fare better looking for vintage clothes and jewellery. That said, a voice from the past - possibly via a neighbour or sibling, could be worth listening to.


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weather report
East Chance of Rain Pittsburgh, PA

Mostly sunny skies. High 69F. Winds light and variable.

south Chance of Rain

Charlotte, NC

Mainly sunny. High 81F. Winds light and variable.

midwest Chance of Rain Cleveland, OH

Sunshine and some clouds. High 66F. Winds light and variable.

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Santa Barbara, CA

A few clouds early, otherwise mostly sunny. High 68F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph.


General Election Poll: Rasmussen Daily Tracking

Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large. Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. Our baseline targets are established based upon survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews). For the month of August, the targets are 40.6% Democrat, 31.6% Republican, and 27.8% unaffiliated. For July, the targets were 41.4% Democrat, 31.5% Republican, and 27.1% unaffiliated (see party trends and analysis).



Betting Lines: Intrade Prediction Markets