In a recent interview with NationalJournal.com, former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff differed with two of his Bush administration colleagues -- backing away from statements by former Vice President Dick Cheney that President Obama had made the country less safe and slamming former FEMA Director Michael Brown as "obviously bitter." Chertoff had nicer things to say about the current White House, praising the Obama administration for continuing Bush-era policies like the Mérida Initiative to fund anti-drug efforts in Mexico and invoking the state secrets privilege. Since leaving government, the former secretary has started his own security consulting firm, the Chertoff Group. Edited excerpts of his conversation with Alina Selyukh follow. Visit the archives page for more Insider Interviews.